Serbia captures fugitive Karadzic

[akritas]

Bosnian Serb war crimes suspect Radovan Karadzic, one of the world's most wanted men, has been arrested in Serbia after more than a decade.

His capture has been confirmed by Serbia's president and government.
The Bosnian Serb wartime political leader disappeared in 1996 and was subsequently indicted by the UN War Crimes Tribunal in The Hague.
He is accused of war crimes and genocide over the massacre of 7,500 Muslim men and boys at Srebrenica.


His wartime military leader, Ratko Mladic, remains at large.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7518543.stm

[Petros Houhoulis]

Check the news.I just saw it in Zougla.gr

[Grace]

Greece's flags at half-staff:
"one of the most prominent sons of our Lord Jesus Christ working for peace'"
http://books.google.com/books?id=nfZ...kUTQJ4QGBB5Dpw

"In 1993, the Greek Orthodox church bestowed its highest honor on Karadzic,
the nine-hundred-year-old Order of Saint Dionysius of Xanthe"
http://books.google.com/books?id=wXo...Aiqjt9TzhPoaMg

[TirAlb]

I guess his price reached the peak,so they sold him.

[kostas68]

Originally Posted by Grace

"In 1993, the Greek Orthodox church bestowed its highest honor on Karadzic,
the nine-hundred-year-old Order of Saint Dionysius of Xanthe"
http://books.google.com/books?id=wXo...Aiqjt9TzhPoaMg

What's that?Neither such honor exists,nor any <Saint Dionysius of Chankeia>.And off course even this <Chankeia> is non-existent.

[Petros Houhoulis]

Originally Posted by Grace

Greece's flags at half-staff:
"one of the most prominent sons of our Lord Jesus Christ working for peace'"
http://books.google.com/books?id=nfZ...kUTQJ4QGBB5Dpw

"In 1993, the Greek Orthodox church bestowed its highest honor on Karadzic,
the nine-hundred-year-old Order of Saint Dionysius of Xanthe"
http://books.google.com/books?id=wXo...Aiqjt9TzhPoaMg

Liars Liars pants on fires!!!

http://www.scc.rutgers.edu/serbian_d...101/t101-3.htm

"August 30, 1993 Vreme News Digest Agency No 101

Anything Goes

Peace-Maker Radovan Karadzic Awarded Knight Order Of An Unheard-Of Church

by Mirko Mlakar

Along with the Bijelo Polje literary prize ``Risto Ratkovic,'' Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic has won another form of recognition. Namely, Karadzic was awarded the highest Order of St. Dionysius on Pale on Tuesday. The state news agency Tanjug said that the Bosnian Serb leader received this 900-year-old high order of the Greek Orthodox Church from the representative of this religious community, Mr. Mladen Zarubica.

Underscoring that he was ``extremely honoured'' by the order, Karadzic said he hoped all peoples in these lands would soon live in peace, Tanjug said. To a question of Western journalists, surprised that an order was being awarded to Karadzic who does not boast a good reputation in the world today, Zarubica replied that awarding the order to Karadzic could surprise only those who knew nothing about Serbs and who qualified their justified struggle for independence as aggression. It seems, however, that the true ``catch'' lies not in the fact that the order is awarded to Karadzic, abhorred by some or even many, but in who is granting it! It would be appropriate if an order, particularly such a high knight order, were awarded by a senior church dignitary. But of what church? VREME has learned that Zarubica, a Serb-born American, did not award the order on behalf of the Greek Church, but on behalf of the Greco-Romanian Church. Such a religious community is not listed among Greek canonical churches nor among churches headed by Greeks, ie, whose bishops are predominantly Greek (Constantinople Patriarchate, Cypriot Arch-diocese, Greek Arch-diocese, Alexandrian Patriarchate...) We have also been unable to find the Greco-Romanian Church on any of the lists of autocephalous and autonomous Orthodox churches we have been able to obtain. Maybe a non-canonical church is in question, although a Greco-Romanian alliance is quite puzzling, unless a Vlach or Tzintzar religious community is in question.

The Serbian Patriarchate has never heard of the above-mentioned church; neither have the Greek sources and the Vrsac-based Vicary of the Romanian Orthodox Church in the Yugoslav part of Banat (Vojvodina).

Leader Karadzic was to have visited the Greek island of Zakinthos, but his visit was postponed ``for security reasons,'' so that he was unable to be proclaimed citizen of honour and take part in the festivities on St. Dionysius Day. Maybe the Order of St. Dionysius is a kind of replacement, ie, compensation to Karadzic for his absence at the St. Dionysius festivities.

Maybe the gentleman who has awarded Karadzic the high order has appropriated a false title--if this 900-year-old order exists at all. Although the existence of the Greco-Romanian Church is problematic in itself, ie, although this religious community does not boast a reputation worth mentioning, Karadzic is obviously adhering to the logic ``I'll take anything you give me'' when the order is in question, hoping that the cheap gold plate will be interpreted by some distant future generations as genuine gold awarded for knighthood and peace-making."

[Grace]

so Mirko Mlakar says it didn't happen? Hmmm...who to believe?
Did he say this? "The Serbs have only two friends: God, and the Greeks."
http://maillists.uci.edu/mailman/pub...ly/005561.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003...kans.warcrimes

You know that the Serbian church hated Slobodan...because he was too soft, right? When Karadzic's mom died, today's Serbia's (acting) Patriarch said that she is immortal for giving birth to such a hero.
http://www.google.com/search?q=compa...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

[Petros Houhoulis]

Originally Posted by Grace

so Mirko Mlakar says it didn't happen? Hmmm...who to believe?
Did he say this? "The Serbs have only two friends: God, and the Greeks."
http://maillists.uci.edu/mailman/pub...ly/005561.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003...kans.warcrimes

You know that the Serbian church hated Slobodan...because he was too soft, right? When Karadzic's mom died, today's Serbia's (acting) Patriarch said that she is immortal for giving birth to such a hero.
http://www.google.com/search?q=compa...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

What Mirko says is that what happened was not an action of the Greek Orthodox church, but of a certain Serb-American who invented a Greco-Romanian church of his own and adopted a saint of his own, probably him:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05010b.htm

There is NO GREEK saint Dionysius from either Xanthe or Chania. The only two Greek saints with that name were from Zakynthos and Athens (The areopagites) both being the most notable local saints of their places.

Anyway, Greece and the Greeks supported Serbia in various ways, but not too much in military terms. Greece could have vetoed the NATO attacks in Serbia, you know...

[Grace]

Originally Posted by Petros Houhoulis

Greece could have vetoed the NATO attacks in Serbia, you know...

Not really. While technically everyone's consent is needed, US, Britain, Germany and other powerful nations do make the rules (they also provide the most $$ and military backing.) For Greece, a small country, to veto this the price would have been extraordinary in more than one way.

But Greece, France etc did make it harder by vetoing certain targets.

[Petros Houhoulis]

Originally Posted by Grace

Not really. While technically everyone's consent is needed, US, Britain, Germany and other powerful nations do make the rules (they also provide the most $$ and military backing.) For Greece, a small country, to veto this the price would have been extraordinary in more than one way.

But Greece, France etc did make it harder by vetoing certain targets.

Yeah, sure, and the U.S.A. bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade! I think that Greece was right to veto certain targets, because those U.S.Americans could have bombed their own embassy in Begrade...