Michael Savage savaging the Albanians and Croats.

[Truth Bearer]

Irrelevant at least you made an attempt to explain yr position.He seems pretty logical and considering he's a Jew he attacks Israel also.Psesent yr side and show him how the Albanians got a raw deal after the fall of the Ottoman Empire how your people were never organised and totally fractured no leaders that wanted full Albanian unity leadrrs like Ali Pasa and Mehmet Ali only cared for themselves like all true Albanians.

[pankration]

A lot of what he said and was said by callers (make sure you differentiate between the two) were basic rants. However, there is no question that Croats were Nazi collaborators; it is documented by other historians. As for the rest, a bit more investigation is needed as he makes some blanket statements.

[TirAlb]

Originally Posted by Truth Bearer

Irrelevant at least you made an attempt to explain yr position.He seems pretty logical and considering he's a Jew he attacks Israel also.Psesent yr side and show him how the Albanians got a raw deal after the fall of the Ottoman Empire how your people were never organised and totally fractured no leaders that wanted full Albanian unity leadrrs like Ali Pasa and Mehmet Ali only cared for themselves like all true Albanians.

So you think ill gain his sympathies,if i tell him that all true Albanians,are egoists that think only about themselves.Come on...

A lot of what he said and was said by callers (make sure you differentiate between the two) were basic rants. However, there is no question that Croats were Nazi collaborators; it is documented by other historians. As for the rest, a bit more investigation is needed as he makes some blanket statements.

Not at that scale but Serbs collaborated as well.

[Truth Bearer]

Originally Posted by TirAlb

So you think ill gain his sympathies,if i tell him that all true Albanians,are egoists that think only about themselves.Come on...

No why gain his sympathy?Tell him the truth present him the evidence I doubt very much he is aware of the events.

[TirAlb]

Originally Posted by Truth Bearer

No why gain his sympathy?Tell him the truth present him the evidence I doubt very much he is aware of the events.

My last post wasn't much about what he said,but about what you wrote.

...only cared for themselves like all true Albanians.

I mean i got the irony.

[Truth Bearer]

Come on TirAlb are you saying that I'm lying now?The Albanians have never been about unity.They do not feel a need to untie the whole Albanian people under one banner one nation.They are generally self interested have no real sense of patriotism like the Serbs or Greeks do.

[Truth Bearer]

And no I wasn't sarcastic either.....Don't take too easily the offence TirAlb.

[TirAlb]

Originally Posted by Truth Bearer

Come on TirAlb are you saying that I'm lying now?The Albanians have never been about unity.They do not feel a need to untie the whole Albanian people under one banner one nation.They are generally self interested have no real sense of patriotism like the Serbs or Greeks do.

We organised the selfdefense of our lands in 1878, in 1913 in WW1 in WW2,we created an army from pratically nothing in less then 5 years in the 90's(KLA),and that alone.Do you know that all the paralel system in Kosova after their autonomy was suppressed,was sustained,with private donations?We have 3 different religions,and not exactly friendly neigbours that tryied,to mine our identity and sovereignty,on every occasion,yet we are still here and stronger and more united then ever.I doubt thats casual,and smth unpatriotic people would be able to achieve.

And no I wasn't sarcastic either.....Don't take too easily the offence TirAlb.

Im not that touchy TB,i appreciate sarcasm.

[Truth Bearer]

Yr co religionists the Ottomans massacred your intelligensia back in the 1870's when they didn't allow you to teach yr language.....The Ottomans did many bad to the Albo Muslims.

[zefs]

Didn't the Chams colloborate with the Nazis? The connections between the Nazi's and Islamic fascism led by Al Husseini have been proven. He helped creat a bosnian Muslim and Albanian SS group. The goal was to exterminate the Serbs and take Kosovo and form a greater Islamic state of Albania. Sounds familiar? Lets not forget the Bush family connections with the Nazis, and how Bush,now, was exremely supportive of Kosovo. Coincidence, you be the judge.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/816232/posts
http://fanonite.org/2008/02/25/kosov...-of-palestine/