Karabakh War

[Galandar]

Originally Posted by Truth Bearer

So how come the Iranians consider you of Persian blood Galandar?I was talking to a Persian historian who told me this.
P.S.Also you do not look likle a Mongol.

Persians can't consider us of persian blood, because we are different nation. I am azerbaijani, he is persian. We have some blood of them in some of us, but the same of our blood they have in their bloods. And yes frankly speaking i can accept the fact that both nations have influenced each other.

P.S. No one looks like a mongol in Azerbaijan

[Truth Bearer]

Soory I didn't mean to offend it's just a reference about yr Anatolian roots.Were you not part of the Persian Empire Galandar?

[Truth Bearer]

Nagorno-Karabakh War
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Nagorno-Karabakh War refers to the armed conflict that took place from February 1988 to May 1994, in the small ethnic enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh (I) in southwestern Azerbaijan, between the predominantly ethnic Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh backed by the Republic of Armenia against the Republic of Azerbaijan. As the war progressed, Armenia and Azerbaijan, both former Soviet Republics, became enveloped in a protracted, undeclared war in the mountainous heights of Karabakh as Azerbaijan attempted to curb a secessionist movement in Nagorno-Karabakh. The enclave's parliament had voted in favor of uniting itself with Armenia and a referendum was held with the vast majority of the Karabakh population voting in favor of independence. The demand to unify with Armenia, which proliferated in the late 1980s, began in a relatively peaceful manner; however, in the following months, as the Soviet Union's disintegration neared, it gradually grew into an increasingly violent conflict between the two ethnic groups, resulting in claims of ethnic cleansing by all sides.[5][6]

The war was the most destructive ethnic conflict in both terms of lives and property that emerged after the Soviet Union collapsed in December 1991.[7] Inter ethnic fighting between the two broke out shortly after the parliament of Nagorno-Karabakh, an autonomous oblast in Azerbaijan, voted to unify the region with Armenia on February 20, 1988. The declaration of seceding from Azerbaijan was the final result of a "long-standing resentment in the Armenian community of Nagorno Karabakh against serious limitations of its cultural and religious freedom by central Soviet and Azerbaijani authorities,"[8] but more importantly, as a territorial conflict regarding the land.[9]

Along with the secessionist movements in the Baltic republics of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, the succeeding movement characterized and played a large role in bringing the downfall of the Soviet Union. As Azerbaijan declared its independence from the Soviet Union and removed the powers held by the enclave's government, the Armenian majority voted to secede from Azerbaijan, and in the process proclaimed the enclave the Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh.[10]

Full-scale fighting erupted in the late winter of 1992. International mediation by several groups including Europe's OSCE failed to bring an end resolution that both sides could work with. In the spring of 1993, Armenian forces captured regions outside the enclave itself, threatening the involvement of other countries in the region. By the end of the war in 1994, the Armenians were in full control of not only the enclave but also held and currently control approximately 9% of Azerbaijan's territory outside the enclave.[11] As many as 400,000 Armenians from Azerbaijan and 800,000 Azeris from Armenia and Karabakh have been displaced as a result of the conflict.[1] A Russian-brokered cease fire was signed in May of 1994 and peace talks, mediated by the OSCE Minsk Group, have been held ever since by Armenia and Azerbaijan.

P.S do you agree is this article correct Galandar?

[Galandar]

Originally Posted by Truth Bearer

Soory I didn't mean to offend it's just a reference about yr Anatolian roots.Were you not part of the Persian Empire Galandar?

First, we have no anatolian roots. Turcic people (turks) came to Anatolia and they created an Ottoman empire there.

Second, our roots have different background. Our ansestors are caucasian albanians (a country before islamic invasion of arabs) mixed with turcic people. Persians and arabs as well as russians influenced us in different part of our history.

Third, at some part of history persian sasanids included our territory. As for Sefevi Empire, it was not persian at all. It was created on the territories populated by azerbaijanies and the first shakh Ismail Khatai was turcic (azerbaijani). The first capital was azerbaijani Tabriz, but later leadership was taken by persians and they changed the capital in persian city. When Sefevi empire fell down, many azerbaijani khanates were created in both North (modern Azerbaijan Republic) and South (azerbaijani lands in north of Iran) Azerbaijan. In 1828 after russian invasion and russian-persian war, they signed Turkmanchay Agreement and divided azerbaijani lands into north for Russia and south for Persia. Later in 1918 azerbaijanies proclaimed independence in the territories of modern Azerbaijan (then a part of Russian Empire). This state existed 2 years 1918-1920. In 1920 it was occupied by communist Russia untill 1991 when proclaimed it independence of Azerbaijan Republic.

[Galandar]

Yes, this article is correct, with some exceptions:

1) Azerbaijanies had been forced to go out of Armenia and those territories of Karabakh in 1988 before the war started

2) This referendum about independence was hold without participation of 24% azerbaijani population of Karabakh autonomous district.

3) Azerbaijan deprived Karabakh of its autonomy after separatist action of armenians.

4) It is a nonsence about serious limitations of its cultural and religious freedom by central Soviet and Azerbaijani authorities. Azerbaijan wasn't an independent, we lived in USSR and soviet authorities of Azerbaijan did nothing agains the rights of armenians in Karabakh.

5) Population of Karabakh was 120 000 people; therefore 76% armenians, 24% azerbaijanies. It was not that much in 7 mln. Azerbaijan. Both nations' languages were official in Karabakh. We fighted not with those people, but with armed forces of Russia and Armenia. Without russian support armenians could do nothing against us.

[Truth Bearer]

So are the Azeris indigenous to the Caucasus region like the Armenians??

[Truth Bearer]

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Our ansestors are caucasian albanians (a country before islamic invasion of arabs) mixed with turcic people

Are we talking about the same Albanians in Europe?And if so do you share the same language?

[Galandar]

Originally Posted by Truth Bearer

So are the Azeris indigenous to the Caucasus region like the Armenians??

Yes, we are indigenous too. Turcic influence over us doesn't mean that we have nothing with the lands we live.

[Galandar]

Originally Posted by Truth Bearer

Quote:
Our ansestors are caucasian albanians (a country before islamic invasion of arabs) mixed with turcic people

Are we talking about the same Albanians in Europe?And if so do you share the same language?

No, it is not about Albania in Europe, no relations to Albania in Balkan peninsula. I am talking about Caucasian Albania. As a result of the expansion of Seljuks Turks into the territory of modern Azerbaijan in the eleventh century, the indigenous Albanian population was assimilated. Albanians played a significant role in the ethnogenesis of today's Azerbaijanies (azeries).

Caucasian Albania: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_Albania

[Galandar]

General Assembly calls for removal of Armenian forces from Nagorno-Karabakh

General Assembly Hall
14 March 2008 – The General Assembly today adopted a resolution on the Nagorno-Karabakh region of Azerbaijan in which it called for the immediate, complete and unconditional withdrawal of Armenian forces “from all the occupied territories of the Republic of Azerbaijan.”
With 39 votes in favour, seven against and 100 abstentions, the Assembly adopted a text that also called for “continued respect and support for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Republic of Azerbaijan within its internationally recognized borders.”

The resolution reaffirmed “the inalienable right of the population expelled from the occupied territories” of Azerbaijan to return to their homes, and to achieve that end it underlined the need for the comprehensive rehabilitation of all conflict-affected territories.

No State should recognize as lawful the current situation in Nagorno-Karabakh, nor provide aid or assistance to maintain that situation, according to the text, which also called for “normal, secure and equal conditions of life for Armenian and Azerbaijani communities in the Nagorno-Karabakh region” so that “an effective democratic system of self-governance” can be built up.

In addition, the resolution voices support for international mediation efforts to the dispute over Nagorno-Karabakh, particularly the work of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) Minsk Group Co-Chairmen.