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Illyrian ancestry of the Albanians?

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View Poll Results: Do the Albs descend from the ancient Illyrians?
Yes they descend directly from them 11 20.00%
There is a certain amount of relation between them 21 38.18%
No they are completely different stocks of people 23 41.82%
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Old 05-21-2007, 07:19 AM
Ehetlaios Ï ÷ñÞóôçò Ehetlaios äåí åßíáé óõíäåäåìÝíïò
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I mean, how is pride defined?

Is it alright for someone to be proud of his people because they have a talent for survival?

Or is it alright for someone to be proud of his people because they have accomplished things that influence the world even today?
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Old 05-21-2007, 07:51 AM
Illyro-Pellasgian Ï ÷ñÞóôçò Illyro-Pellasgian äåí åßíáé óõíäåäåìÝíïò
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loooolll....
I doubt Pericles had the same greek-idea on founding democracy ......
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Old 05-21-2007, 07:54 AM
Ehetlaios Ï ÷ñÞóôçò Ehetlaios äåí åßíáé óõíäåäåìÝíïò
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loooolll....
I doubt Pericles had the same greek-idea on founding democracy ......
I am a democrat.

Not that you would know what democracy is anyway.
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Old 05-21-2007, 08:50 AM
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lol you didn't understand my ironic sentence ... whatever!
but i'll consider the best on going to discuss by facts on what is your "open" forum otherwise i can come to you and explain your police-crimes used on us by your democracy...
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Old 05-21-2007, 08:56 AM
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lol you didn't understand my ironic sentence ... whatever!
but i'll consider the best on going to discuss by facts on what is your "open" forum otherwise i can come to you and explain your police-crimes used on us by your democracy...
The topic is about the alleged Illyrian ancestry of the Albanian people.. if you want to change topic, open a different one.

As for that "open forum" crack, noone has forbidden you from posting anything and your first post (highly provocative and insulting) in this thread is clear proof of this being a fact.
All requested was that you avoid long copy/pastes that neither will anyone read nor will assist the process of this discussion.

So now, do you intend to give me an answer on both my posts or not ?
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Old 05-21-2007, 12:15 PM
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1)You are not illyrian
2)If you were illyrian you could not be pelasgian as pelasgian were autochtonous and illyrians came as 1000-1300bc
3)In the best case Scenario you are Daco(thraco)-hunns
4)Illyrians are found among vlach and slavic populations
5)In the worst Scenario you dont even belong in the balkans but migrated from elsewhere

You have ruined the Thread by posting stupidities and not reading it from the begginning.Reposting the same you havent read but we discussed with previous albanians is pointless.
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Old 05-22-2007, 05:50 AM
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What is seen in mythological historical and archaeological accounts is that the illyrians were greatly related to the Celts and Gauls and come from the same stock the "proto-celtic".






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Old 05-22-2007, 08:18 AM
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1) I AM AN ILLYRIAN
2) It is true that we all are pellasgians as I told you greeks (as for it you can even read the iliad we were allies with the troyans who were founded by dardanus from the dardanians ,Illyrians) .And yes we (illyrians) as celts ,as dacians,as thracians were pellasgians
3) Yes it is true the slavs had assimilated most of the Illyrians ,as Dalmatians and pannonians with the maggiars that’s why dumbhead you can find Illyrians among them and the only Illyrian tribes that did survive the assimilation were the albanoi,labeatii,enkeleii,taulantii and many others . We have a long epos that verifies it as the war with the south-slavs during the assimilation..the songs are singed even today on our highlands.
4) Whatever … but don’t tell me bullshit on having discussed with other Albanians that have been dued to change their names only for having a place of work in Greece you racists!!!!!
5) I will post more facts and maps also…soon
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Old 05-22-2007, 08:28 AM
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You havent read the thread and post trash that in this world only brainwashed albanians believe and those that see in this political gain or out of ignorance support.

You are not and will never be anythinn other than a brainwashed nazi as you all are now.
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Old 05-22-2007, 08:30 AM
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If you were illyrian you could not be pelasgian as pelasgian were autochtonous and illyrians came at 1000-1300bc.
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