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Old 12-20-2007, 07:59 AM
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Prof. Nikolai Ovcharov is a well known Bulgarian archaeologist that discovered a unique tomb that belongs to the ancient people of Thrace in Tatul. He has made irrational claims while trying to appropriate Orpheus as a personality for Bulgaria by ignoring and outright lying about sources and historical texts referring to Orpheus. He also tried to base this on a coin of Caracalla with no logical or historical base. His nationalistic and weird claims were part of a diplomatic episode where he claimed "Orpheus lived in Bulgaria," Prof Nikolay Ovcharov. This was a lie of course as all sources pinpoint Orpheus birth life and death in the area of modern Greece-where once the part of ancient Thrace that orpheus lived in and the part of ancient Greece- but it didn’t deter him from supporting this view. His self purpose was to appropriate Orpheus against all historical data 4 to use him as a poster face for Bulgarian tourism. Orpheus will be Bulgaria's "poster face" at a tourism fair in Switzerland. He also commented negatively and judged the Discovery Channel team filming for Thracian gold and expressed his worries that rights of researchers were violated since certain discoveries maybe presented as somebody elses.

He has published a book on it; Perperikon: A Civilization of the Rock People (Hardcover) by Nikolay Ovcharov ISBN-10: 9545001402

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolay_Ovcharov

http://www.perperikon.bg/

Great aesthetics and pretty cool effects.

But regarding Orpheus his agenda remains.In "Orpheus and the Orphic tradition" all he states is that he was a Thracian from Thrace-of course-and all other aspects of his life are not mentioned.No details just generalization's, Parnassus,Pieria,Cicones & more and all and anything that could show where he lived in relation to modern and ancient geography and world is omitted.

He just wants to link him for modern Bulgaria for tourism and modern nationalism and disregard all data but his fancy...

http://www.ancient-bulgaria.com/2006...mb-of-orpheus/
http://www.ancient-bulgaria.com/2007...eus-bulgarian/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...7/ixworld.html
http://www.standartnews.com/en/artic...5&article=7183
http://international.ibox.bg/news/id_1859499258
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Thrace modern state boundaries excluding Dacia.

And where Orpheus was born , lived , died and was buried

Genealogical Guide to Greek Mythology (Studies in Mediterranean Archaeology, Vol 107) (Hardcover)
by Carlos Parada

# ISBN-10: 9170810621
# ISBN-13: 978-9170810626
http://homepage.mac.com/cparada/GML/Orpheus.html
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also....Is this guy serious?
http://www.novinite.com/view_photo.php?id=60465

Prominent Bulgarian archaeologist Professor Nikolay Ovcharov called Monday for legalizing trade in antiquities. Photo by Yuliana Nikolova (Sofia News Agency)
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Sure he is serious. Also, his vewpoints tell us how serious a scientist he is. A big FARCE.
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But I think it is enough for Greece to raise the question in EU Level, after the scopians now we have the Thracians and Orpheos Bulgarian. In trade there are products for which Greece fought in EU to license them as "Greek" how are to be tolerated such insinuations?!
Soon enough we will have Orpheev and Euridikieva))))))))))))))))))))

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http://www.spiegel.de/international/...524976,00.html
Bulgaria Plagued by 'Grave Robbers'
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Another fraudster attacks

Bulgarian thracologist Georgi Kitov has stated that the Vergina Sun was also a Thracian symbol.

Въведение в Тракийската археология, Георги Китов, Даниела Агре, стр. 33-34, ИК Авалон, (in Bulgarian), ISBN 954-9704-07-6. [1]

"...The interior is occupied by the so called "Macedonian" star with 18 black rays on pale-yellow background (fig. 41). Other similar stars are used in the decoration of the ornamental edges (fig. 42). In Thrace they are also known from the bottom of a silver scyphos from Strelcha (fig. 43), from the decoration of the Ostrusha mound near Shipka in the Valley of the Thracian kings and elsewhere. Some of them predate those [18-rayed stars] from Macedonia, which puts into doubt the validity of identification "Macedonian". Maybe it is time the term to be replaced with another - "Thracian star".


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The star is not found only or at first in Phillips tomb it was everywhere in ancient Greece,it just became so important with phillip.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...a_83.AE.10.jpg




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Every respecting himself archeologist will not be biased and nationalist, which is not the case with Bulgarian archelogists obviously
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