The Bulgarians stealing Orpheos and Euridiki

[Demetrius Doukas]

I just watched in the Bulgarian national TV a bulgarian clearly stating that Orpheos of course was bulgarian which made me law. It seems that like their scopian cousins claiming to be "Macedonian" in Bulgaria are spreading the propaganda inside and out that the bulgarians are Thracians. So I ask them what Orpheos and Euridiki means in bulgarian?!?
Everyone knows that the Thracians were semi-hellenic tribe completly Hellenized long before the upcoming of the first protobulgarian and slavic tribes. The strong Hellenic influence and character is clearly seen in all Thracian artifacts in their shape and depicting images found in Greece and Bulgaria, in the Thracian proper names and religion. You cannot get confused)
How the bulgarian participants here will comment this?
I thought it proper to post that thread here in the section of "Slavic History and Slavic Migration" considering that we discuss the bulgarian history here as well.

[Paulos Melas]

The problem with Bulgars (both Bulgarians and Skopians) is that they are contained by serious inferiority complex and desperetaly try to erase their past and true origin.
Only Bulgars and the turks are desperately trying to proove their indigenous origins in the areas that they had colonised a thousand years ago.
The reason is that both they live on old greek lands and unfortunately for them the Greeks are not a distict nation of the past but an ancient but still alive and very vibrant nation .
So both bulgars and turks make up all this stories in order to justify why they legally have taken foreign greek land and live upon it.
I mean for me it doesn t make much of sense as this happened hundred of years ago ago but apparently their inferiority complex does not allow them to reconsile with their nomadic past.

[olvios]

They said he was bulgarian?! Didnt they say he was thracian?

[Demetrius Doukas]

Originally Posted by olvios

They said he was bulgarian?! Didnt they say he was thracian?

No they don't actually they even did not mention the Thracians, also they said that I cite:
"because the bulgarians have the most beautiful songs in the balkans and are the best singers from whom the Greeks and the other neighboring countries have learned to sing and "stole" many songs it is obvious that Orfei(not Orpheos) is bulgarian.
ridiculous.

[olvios]

Wow Bulgaria is truly in the level of the Skopjans.

[Flipper]

Guys, Bulgaria is not on a FYROM level. You will see romantic exception like in any country.

We can't deny the fact that their land was once upper Thrace. However, just like Helladic civilizations of Neolithic times are not equal to Greek (but a substance of it), Thracians are not equal to Bulgarians.

Nowadays, both the Greeks of Thrace and Bulgarians have a distant link to Thracians and their history, but that doesn't make Thracians originaly Greek nor Bulgarian.

[Demetrius Doukas]

I did not tell you the most funny thing however)
actually the whole TV discussion was raised to counteract the scopian claim that Orpheos is Macedonian in order to prove that he is pure bulgarian because the direct decendants of the Thracians are the bulgarians. Some time ago I found the same bulgarian claim in wikipedia in english regarding the history of bulgaria, also most of the more prominent bulgarian historians strongly support that, it is widely spread in the bulgarian universities and as a matter of fact in bulgaria "Thrace" is considered purely bulgarian cultural and political heritage and is not connected with the Hellenic civilization at all. In most bulgarian bookstores in the centre of Sofia I saw how many books the bulgarians are printing in supporting this theory, it is amazing really.

[Demetrius Doukas]

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Originally Posted by Flipper

Guys, Bulgaria is not on a FYROM level. You will see romantic exception like in any country.

The difference is only in the fact that the bulgarians did not name their country "Thrace" officially, but this does not prevent them to appropriate the whole Thracian heritage as a matter of their past. I had lived there for quite a time and know well their mentality in general...............

[Paulos Melas]

Guys just something interesting
Pan bulgarian/Bolgar/Bulgar UNITY :: View topic - Goriani
If you read threads in this forum you will realise beyond any doublt the origins of Bulgars (ie Bulgarians and skopians)

[Demetrius Doukas]

Thank you Paulos,

If I'm not mistaken I found there our old aquiantance "tankistabg" and as "admin" in matter of fact hi hi hi))))