Need help

[Christov]

Dear Sirs,

I am new to the forum and I am searching the place my family comes from. Does anyone know the old name of the Eleftherochori near the town of Kilkis? Any help will be appreciated!

Christov

[Tsontos]

Welcome. I dont speak Bulgarian so I cant help you with that. From the time Ive spent on forums however Ive gathered a few things and discovered that Thessaloniki's real name was Solun before 1913, or at least some time in the 19th century

[Christov]

Thank you for your answer! Yes, that is true about the Thessaloniki. It sounds similar in French language today. I am planning to visit this aerial, but I am concern about how much my English or German can help. The old name of the place I am searching for, is “Novo selo”. In an old Austro-Hungarian military maps I’ve founded, the place I am searching for exists with a Turkish name Enikjoj (which means the same). However, if someone knows something more about Eleftherochori, please, let me know!

[Tsontos]

The city was founded circa 315 BC by Cassander, the King of Macedon (Μακεδών), on or near the site of the ancient town of Therma and twenty six other local villages. He named it after his wife Thessalonica, the sister of Alexander the Great. She gained her name from her father, Philip II of Macedon, to commemorate her birth on the day of his gaining a victory (Gr. Nike) over the Thessalians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thessaloniki

Do you read Greek still?






So Christov, what was your 'Slave name' before you had your re-awakening?

[Christov]

Yes, that is true what you write about Thessaloniki. A “slave name” I never had. My name is Christo – widely spread in the civilized world in different variations. It has Greek origin. My posting has no intention to insult or to argue, whatsoever! It is call for help.

[Tsontos]

beleive me no insult was endured!

so which is true about Thessaloniki?

1) Was it the name founded by Cassander from the word "Thessaloniki" (Greek for 'Victory over the Thessalonians') and later adapted by other peoples (Slavic: Solun, Turkish: Selanik, French: Salonique, English, Salonika etc)

or

2) It was a name formulated by Greeks within the last two centuries for a city in which no Greeks lived, and in fact created to deny its real name: Solun; which had been used since god knows when

[Christov]

Many cities had more than one name during the history. All of them belong to one and same habitat. My native place: Sofia, (which has Greek meaning), was Serdica and Sredec during the history. It’s the same with Constantinopel/Istambul, Philipopolis/Plovdiv, Uskub/Skopje, etc.. In my opinion the correct answer of your question is number 1.

[Tsontos]

My apologies! I assumed from this that you were a "Macedonian" of the FYROM kind:

am new to the forum and I am searching the place my family comes from. Does anyone know the old name of the Eleftherochori near the town of Kilkis? Any help will be appreciated!

The fact that you wrote "old name" instead of "Slavic name" gave me that impression! Surely you are aware of the old Yugoslav claim that before 1913 there were no Greeks or Bulgarians in Macedonia, Vardar or Blaveograd and therefore how this misunderstanding developed!

[Christov]

It's OK!

[Ellinas]

Originally Posted by Voulgaroktonos

beleive me no insult was endured!

so which is true about Thessaloniki?

1) Was it the name founded by Cassander from the word "Thessaloniki" (Greek for 'Victory over the Thessalonians') and later adapted by other peoples (Slavic: Solun, Turkish: Selanik, French: Salonique, English, Salonika etc)

or

2) It was a name formulated by Greeks within the last two centuries for a city in which no Greeks lived, and in fact created to deny its real name: Solun; which had been used since god knows when

Thessaloniki was the name of Alexander's sister and wife of Cassandros. Ths city was named after her. I am impressed many Greeks didn't know that.