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Old 11-30-2006, 06:51 AM
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From all the sources Ive read, all the foreigners; Englishmen, Frenchmen who came to Macedonia and reported on the racial diversity of the region, it strikes me how few mention coming across Macedonists; that it, people who beleive they are of a Macedonian nationality and not Bulgarian/ Greek/ Serb/ Vlach etc.

Heres an example of what I meant. all noting on the peculiarity of such a beleif:

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"I have even met people who believe there is a special race which they call 'Macedonian', whose 'cause' they wish to aid. The truth is, that in a district which has no official frontiers, and never has had any stable ones, there are people of six races, who, as we have seen, all have causes to be considered. "

"I shall speak only of the part I have stayed in- the districts of Lakes Ochrida and Presba. Here there are Greeks, Slavs, Albanians, and Vlahs. Of Turks, except officials and such of the army as may be quartered on the spot, there are few. The Albanians, I believe, are all Moslem. Should there be any Christians they would be officially classed as Greeks. A large part of the land near Lake Presba is owned by Moslem Albanians as ' chiftliks ' (farms). "
-The Burden of the Balkans (1905), M. Edith Durham, page 76



these arent contemporary but are still relevant:

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"Although in some areas [of Macedonia] the various groups were all inextricably intermingled, it is pertinent to point out that in other sections a given race decidedly predominated. In the southern districts, for instance, and more particularly along the coast, the Greeks, a city people given to trade, had the upper hand, while to the north of them the Slavs, peasants for the most part working the soil, held sway. These Slavs may properly be considered as a special Macedonian group, but since they were closely related to both Bulgars and Serbs and had, moreover, in the past been usually incorporated in either the Bulgar or Serb state, they inevitably became the object of both Bulgar and Serb aspirations and an apple of discord between these rival nationalities. As an oppressed people on an exceedingly primitive level, the Macedonian Slavs had as late as the congress of Berlin exhibited no perceptible national consciousness of their own. It was therefore impossible to foretell in what direction they would lean when their awakening came; in fact, so indeterminate was the situation that under favorable circumstances they might even develop ther own particular Macedonian consciousness."
[Ferdinand Schevill, "A History of the Balkans", p.432]


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"It should be remembered, to begin with, that there is no Macedonian race, as a distinct type. Macedonians may belong to any of the races of Eastern Europe or Western Asia, as, indeed, they do. A Macedonian Bulgar is just the same as a Bulgar of Bulgaria proper, the old principality, that in October, 1908, at Tirnova, was proclaimed independent of Turkey. He looks the same, talks the same, and very largely, thinks the same way. In short, he is of the same stock. There is no difference, whatsoever, between the two branches of the race, except that the Macedonian Bulgars, as a result of their position under the Turkish government, have less culture and education than their northern brethren."
[Arthur Douglas Howden Smith, "Fighting the Turk in the Balkans: An American's Adventures with the Macedonian Revolutionists", 1908, p. 4-5]


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"It is the national identity of these Slav Macedonians that has been the most violently contested aspect of the whole Macedonian dispute, and is still being contested today. There is no doubt that they are southern Slavs; they have a language, or a group of varying dialects, that is grammatically akin to Bulgarian but phonetically in some respects akin to Serbian.... In regard to their own national feelings, all that can safely be said is that during the last eighty years many more Slav Macedonians seem to have considered themselves Bulgarian, or closely linked to Bulgaria, than have considered themselves Serbian, or closely linked to Serbia (or Yugoslavia). Only the people of the Skoplje region, in the north west, have ever shown much tendency to regard themselves as Serbs. The feeling of being Macedonians, and nothig but Macedonians, seems to be a sentiment of fairly recent growth, and even today is not very deep-rooted."

[Elisabeth Barker, "Macedonia, its place in Balkan power politics",
(originally published in 1950 by the Royal Institute of International Affairs), p.10]



not from a foreigner but from a native

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"But even stranger is the name Macedonians, which was imposed on us only 10 to 15 years ago by outsiders, and not as something by our own intellectuals... Yet the people in Macedonia know nothing of that ancient name, reintroduced today with a cunning aim on the one hand and a stupid one on the other. They know the older word: "Bugari", although mispronounced: they have even adopted it as peculiarly theirs, inapplicable to other Bulgarians. You can find more about this in the introduction to the booklets I am sending you. They call their own Macedono-Bulgarian dialect the "Bugarski language", while the rest of the Bulgarian dialects they refer to as the "Shopski language".
(Makedonski pregled, IX, 2, 1934, p. 55; the original letter is kept in the Marin Drinov Museum in Sofia, and it is available for examination and study)



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The second convention of the Anti-Fascist Council of National Liberation of Yugoslavia, conference takes place on November 29, 1943,in Jajce in Bosnia-Herzegovina and the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia is founded.One of the six Socialist Republics established is the "Socialist republic of Macedonia".
Zola Dragoitscheva,member of the political bureau of the Communist Party of Bulgaria comments on the Jajce Conference:

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Με τον τροπο αυτον οι αποφασεις του Απελευθερωτικου Μετωπου Γιουγκοσλαβιας ,στην πολη Γιάιτσε, σημαιναν οτι μοναδικα με την θεληση του Κ.Κ.Γιουγκοσλαβιας το μακεδονικο ζητημα επαυε να ειναι παμβαλκανικο ζητημα και αφαιρουνταν το δικαιωμα των αλλων βαλκανικων επαναστατικων δυναμεων να συμμετεχουν στην επιλυση του,βαζοντας τες μπροστα σε τετελεσμενο γεγονος.(...) Προτου τελειωσει ο πολεμος και χωρις να παιρνεται υποψη η θεληση του λαου ,και πισω απο τις πλατες του,προκαθοριζοταν η μελλοντικη τυχη της Μακεδονιας.Σαν μοναδικη λυση για την ελευθερη υπαρξη της Μακεδονιας καθοριζοταν η ενσωματωση της στα πλαισια της Ομοσπονδιακης Γιουγκοσλαβιας...Και κατι ακομη.Οι αποφασεις της συνοδου δεν περιοριζονταν μοναχα στην περιοχη της Μακεδονιας του Βαρδαρη,η οποια ως την εναρξη του πολεμου περιλαμβανοταν στο εδαφος της βασιλικης Γιουγκοσλαβιας, αλλα σ' ολη την Μακεδονια δηλαδη και στις αλλες δυο περιοχες ,του Αιγαιου και του Πιριν,που αποτελουν αντιστοιχα τμηματα της Ελλαδας και της Βουλγαριας.

Τσολα Ντραγκο'ί'τσεβα,"Απο την ηττα στη νικη",σελιδα 244.

In this way the decisions of the National Liberation front of Yugoslavia,in the city Jajce,meant that with the will of the Communist Party of Yugoslavia only, the Macedonian question ceased to be a pan-balkanic issue and the other Balkan revolutionary forces were deprived of their right to participate in its resolution,putting them in front of facts already concluded.(...) Before the war is over and without taking into account the will of the people, and behind its backs,the future destiny of Macedonia was predetermined.As the only solution for the free existence of Macedonia was determined its incorporation in the frame of the Federal Yugoslavia... And something else. The decisions of the conference were not only limited in the region of Macedonia Vardar, which at the beginning of the war was included in the territory of the royal Yugoslavia, but in all Macedonia that is to say in the other two regions, the Aegean and the Pirin, which were constituting respectively parts of Greece and Bulgaria.

Zola Dragoitscheva,"From defeat to victory", page 244.
The book "From defeat to victory" -Paratiritis publications,Thessaloniki 1983,written by Zola Dragoitscheva was withdrawn from sale with order of the PASOK government,as its publication caused intense reaction from the part of Yugoslavia.The book can be found also in bulgarian and french languages.
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