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Old 07-24-2006, 07:49 AM
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I was referring to the etymology my freind. For the exact circumstances of under which the city was founded, its contained my post above the one you quoted..
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Thank you for your answer! Yes, that is true about the Thessaloniki. It sounds similar in French language today. I am planning to visit this aerial, but I am concern about how much my English or German can help. The old name of the place I am searching for, is “Novo selo”. In an old Austro-Hungarian military maps I’ve founded, the place I am searching for exists with a Turkish name Enikjoj (which means the same). However, if someone knows something more about Eleftherochori, please, let me know!
The only "Novo Selo" I've heard of is situated in Bulgaria..
I think there was a "Dolno Selo" once, today "Kato Vermio".. but this is several Km away from Eleutheroxori that is near Kilkis.. while the other is located between "Naousa" and "Veroia"..
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Old 07-24-2006, 08:34 AM
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Thank you for your answer! Yes, that is true about the Thessaloniki. It sounds similar in French language today. I am planning to visit this aerial, but I am concern about how much my English or German can help. The old name of the place I am searching for, is “Novo selo”. In an old Austro-Hungarian military maps I’ve founded, the place I am searching for exists with a Turkish name Enikjoj (which means the same). However, if someone knows something more about Eleftherochori, please, let me know!

Hmmm.I dont get it exactly. For what you are searching for?
For the old name of "Elefthohori" or for the current name of "Novo Selo"?
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Old 07-24-2006, 08:54 AM
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Thank you, Orphic Hymn! It appears to be a difficult issue…The place must be very close to Kilkis and Herson. And for me even more difficult, since one and same place has several Latin transcriptions, and the Greek I can’t easily read. By the way, you have a great “Nick”. Are you a classical musician?
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I am looking for the place. If it is easier, we can speak on Skype.
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Novo Selo is near Thessaloniki. Today's name is Neochorouda (=new village). There were some other NovoSelo's in Macedonia.

Eleftherochori is close to Herson (Kilkis prefecture) about 3km south-west. A map of Kilkis prefecture when Eleftherochori is visible is here: http://www.kilkis.gr/XARTHS.htm

Herso's Slavic name was Harsovo. Eleftherochori is not in my list or Slavic names.

Is this http://genforum.genealogy.com/greece/messages/5226.html
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Hello Christov and welcome to the forums!

Istor has some good information above in the map he posted.
http://www.kilkis.gr/XARTHS.htm

Wish you all the best in your search. We will look more for you.

(note: this thread should be moved later to free speech Macedonia)
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Old 07-24-2006, 04:14 PM
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Novo Selo makes things more difficult because it says "NOVO SELO" means a new village...

Novo Selo means "new village" in several slavic languages. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novo_Selo

there are too many of those

Although, since your parents were from Eleftherochori they must be from a Greek village. Neochorouda is Greek for New Village.. as it is close to where you mentioned (Orphic Hymnn's information) and what I found confirms this...

Neochorouda:

http://www.gtp.gr/LocPage.asp?id=7767


Also:

Older names for Eleutherochori

Alternates names : Eleftherochori - Elevtherokhori - Elevtherokhorion - Yeni-Koi -

http://www.tageo.com/index-e-gr-v-06-d-9023271.htm

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My deepest gratitude to everyone! Yes, I have been searching for the place and my relatives (for I know there are still living there) in many places, including in the genealogical site: http://genforum.genealogy.com/greece/messages/5226.html Istor was asking. So far I couldn’t find whether the place, nor any track of my distant cousins. It way well be the case, they are simple people who doesn’t use internet. Or they do not come to the idea of somebody is searching them.

Another issue that makes the case complicated is the language: I do speak English, German, Russian and Bulgarian, but coming to a simple village, which of them should I use? Some ears ago I went to Herso for half an hour, and there I met very polite lady, probably Pont Euxin Greek, who spoke in marvelous Russian with me. She simply looked at my car’s number and began the conversation. But I guess this experience is more exception, than a rule. So, there comes my concern about a very natural and basic contact. I do not want to insult anyone in any way, but still to be able to communicate somehow. Thanks again to everyone!
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Old 07-25-2006, 01:27 PM
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It's very possible that some of your older relatives still speak Bulgarian if they are alive. Family members who were divided after dark times, are usually bilingual. Younger people speak English. Greek refugees recently arrived from Russia do speak Russian pretty well.
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