The FYROM-Bulgaria dispute

[Ptolemaios]

Fyromski......................... Bulgarski
voda ...............................voda............... .. water

bolka............................... bolka..................pain

mir.....................................mir ................. peace
momche .............................momche.............bo y
moma, devoika.....................moma, devoika ....girl
bavno.................................bavno .................late
kokoska..............................kokoska ...............chicken
vecher................................vecher...... ...........night
den....................................den........ ..............day
oko....................................oko........ ..............eye
more...................................more....... .............sea
nikoi....................................nikoi.... ................nobody
sega_______________________sega................... now
dete_______________________dete................... child
visok_______________________visok................. .tall
utre________________________utre.................. .tomorrow
znam ______________________znam...................know
vchera_____________________vchera................. yesterday
kuche______________________kuche.................d og
zivot ______________________zivot...................life

[Victor]

Originally Posted by Sugarev

Regarding the article I'd like to ask how come Greece recognized a separatistic political movement like "Vinozhito" and allows a self proclaimed priest representing the self proclaimed "Macedonian" Church to hold liturgies in a Greek village?
We still prohibit the so called United Macedonian Organization "Ilinden" and it recently split into UMO "Ilinden" and UMO "Ilinden - Pirin". As far as I know they have some influence in two villages in the region of Sandanski mostly settled with communists who left Greece in 1948.

TSarknias and his "church" are not sanctioned or approved by anyone in GReece.AS long as he doesnt break any laws,no one cares about his weekly "services" in front of 6 people.
Vinozito officially claims it is not a seperatist movement and only wants recognition for fyromanians in Greece.No one pays much attention to Vinozito because it only runs in Greek EU elections and has never acted in a Greek national election.

[Greek-Cowboy]

Did you see a picture of this priest in Canada along with Voskopolos at the skopjan church with fellow "macedonians" Agean of course- Chris stevu and friends?

[Victor]

WHere is this picture?IS it a recent picture?I thought Voskopoulos and TSarknias hated each other.

[Greek-Cowboy]

Tha pas sto Maknews, tha to vris eki- olla ta koproskill mazevouneh olli mazi sto skopjaniko eklisia, Toronto Canadas....

[Sugarev]

Originally Posted by Greek-Cowboy

Did you see a picture of this priest in Canada along with Voskopolos at the skopjan church with fellow "macedonians" Agean of course- Chris stevu and friends?

Greek Cowboy,

I did not. Do you have it?

[TheSerbianLibertarian]

Originally Posted by Ptolemaios

Fyromski......................... Bulgarski
voda ...............................voda............... .. water

bolka............................... bolka..................pain

mir.....................................mir ................. peace
momche .............................momche.............bo y
moma, devoika.....................moma, devoika ....girl
bavno.................................bavno .................late
kokoska..............................kokoska ...............chicken
vecher................................vecher...... ...........night
den....................................den........ ..............day
oko....................................oko........ ..............eye
more...................................more....... .............sea
nikoi....................................nikoi.... ................nobody
sega_______________________sega................... now
dete_______________________dete................... child
visok_______________________visok................. .tall
utre________________________utre.................. .tomorrow
znam ______________________znam...................know
vchera_____________________vchera................. yesterday
kuche______________________kuche.................d og
zivot ______________________zivot...................life

This is not the most convincing elaboration since:

Fyromski......................... Bulgarski...............srpski/"hrvatski"
voda ...............................voda............... .......voda............. water

bolka............................... bolka.....................bol, boljka......pain

mir.....................................mir .......................mir................peace
momche .............................momche............... .momče..........boy
moma, devoika.....................moma, devoika ....devojka.........girl
bavno.................................bavno ....................polako.........(not "late", but "slowly")
kokoska..............................kokoska ................kokoška.......chicken
vecher................................vecher...... ................večer...........(not "night", but "evening")
den....................................den........ .................dan.............day
oko....................................oko........ .................oko.............eye
more...................................more....... ...............more...........sea
nikoi....................................nikoi.... ..................niko............nobody
sega_______________________sega................... .....sad............now
dete_______________________dete................... ......dete...........child
visok_______________________visok................. ......visok...........tall
utre________________________utre.................. .......sutra..........tomorrow
znam ______________________znam.......................z nam.........(I) know
vchera_____________________vchera................. .......juče..........yesterday
kuche______________________kuche.................. .....kuče..........dog
zivot ______________________zivot....................... ...život..........life

With the Tetovo, than Skoplje and esspecially "The Black Hill" and Kumanovo dialects being transitory towards Serbian.....

[ZZm]

Originally Posted by Ptolemaios

Fyromski......................... Bulgarski
voda ...............................voda............... .. water

bolka............................... bolka..................pain

mir.....................................mir ................. peace
momche .............................momche.............bo y
moma, devoika.....................moma, devoika ....girl
bavno.................................bavno .................late
kokoska..............................kokoska ...............chicken
vecher................................vecher...... ...........night
den....................................den........ ..............day
oko....................................oko........ ..............eye
more...................................more....... .............sea
nikoi....................................nikoi.... ................nobody
sega_______________________sega................... now
dete_______________________dete................... child
visok_______________________visok................. .tall
utre________________________utre.................. .tomorrow
znam ______________________znam...................know
vchera_____________________vchera................. yesterday
kuche______________________kuche.................d og
zivot ______________________zivot...................life

When you're gonna visit Macedonia and learn our language and then Bulgaria and learn theirs(like me), then comment about the similarities. Till then SHUT UP!

[Ptolemaios]

Originally Posted by ZZm

When you're gonna visit Macedonia and learn our language and then Bulgaria and learn theirs(like me), then comment about the similarities. Till then SHUT UP!

History lessons from a skopjian point of view:

Alexandros name was originally Alexandrovski, but he changed his name to Alexandros due to the greek propaganda at that time.
Philipovski agreed to his son choice...

Macedonians had their own language, but they didnt use it in their official trascripts, coins, monuments and every day life, because the greek propaganda, did not allow that super-power to use its own language...

The macedonians were forced by the greeks to develop the greek language (writing ang grammar) at its top level during the alexandrian era.

The macedonians had crypto-slavic feelings before the actual appearance of the Slavs (1000 years before).


Now, you can laugh.........

[ZZm]

Originally Posted by Ptolemaios

History lessons from a skopjian point of view:

Alexandros name was originally Alexandrovski, but he changed his name to Alexandros due to the greek propaganda at that time.
Philipovski agreed to his son choice...

Macedonians had their own language, but they didnt use it in their official trascripts, coins, monuments and every day life, because the greek propaganda, did not allow that super-power to use its own language...

The macedonians were forced by the greeks to develop the greek language (writing ang grammar) at its top level during the alexandrian era.

The macedonians had crypto-slavic feelings before the actual appearance of the Slavs (1000 years before).


Now, you can laugh.........

Yes I will laugh. At your stupidity. If you have something smart to say, say it.
This is a result of bad education and not enough information. Told you before. Go outside Greece a little, you might learn something for once in your life.