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Old 07-23-2007, 11:37 AM
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Macedonia language is Bulgarian dialect

buhaha

I said that Bulgarian language is situated somewhere in Tataria, Mongolia !!!

Don't search bulgarian ideogam pictures in Macedonia !!!
Look Persey, if you're a retard tell mama to take you to a specialist, we can't help you here. The language that the Bulgars spoke (notice PAST TENSE) has nothing to do with the Bulgarian language spoken in the country today. Like it or not, its classified as Slavic and yours as a dialectic form which derives directly from it.
End of story.
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Old 07-23-2007, 11:52 AM
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Finaly !!!

Bulgarians are speaking some kind of macedonian dialect

Not the other way around !!!

Cyril, Methodius, Clemente, and naum were Macedonian Slavs !!!

Mongols and tatars for many years, were in war with the Slavs !!!
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Old 07-23-2007, 11:57 AM
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Finaly !!!

Bulgarians are speaking some kind of macedonian dialect
Reading disability also..


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Cyril, Methodius, Clemente, and naum were Macedonian Slavs !!!
Read HERE and learn

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Mongols and tatars for many years, were in war with the Slavs !!!
And you play what role in this conflict, up untill a minute ago you were claiming that you're neither Slav nor Bulgarian??
PS: I'm still waiting for your translation of of that pic in the Mirsirkov topic.
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I have many swift arrows in the quiver under my arm, arrows that speak to the initiated while the masses need interpreters.
The man who knows a great deal by nature is truly skillful, while those who have only learned chatter with raucous and indiscriminate tongues in vain, like crows.. against the divine bird of Zeus.

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Old 07-23-2007, 12:09 PM
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My stand point of view is that

Slavs and Macedonians were mixed !!!

So i am a Macedonian !!!

And that is my born given right to a nationality !!!

The wars between Slavs and Tatars

Are proof that bulgars aren't Slavs !!!

Bulgarian scholars talking about their bulgarian ancestors

For Clemente, Naum, Methodius, and Cyril

Cyril and Methodius antibulgar missions and lectures

The Bulgarians received their language, culture, folklor etc...

Click Here

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Old 07-23-2007, 12:37 PM
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What about this picture persley??Your language appear from 1944,and it is undisputedly a bulgarian dialect which spoken in west bulgarian!!Furthermore,as far as Kirillos and Methodios is concerned,they were GREEK BYZANTINE BROTHERS who gave the slavic language to YOU(real and brainwashed bulgarians)!!

You stole the bulgarian language and you changed 2 letters and made your own fake language.. congratulations.. hahahaha
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Old 07-23-2007, 01:13 PM
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That is just a provocation !!!

Read above !!!
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Old 07-23-2007, 05:44 PM
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Again links...
Anyway, your first link doesn't work, not that we really care, but just telling you. Your video is quite interesting. While you've given it the title "Greece recognizes" the fool that made up the video which was aired on their obviously prime-time news bulletin, conveniently presents FRENCH documents, hence the "LA POPULATION DE LA GRECE" ... "Statistiques pour Thessalie et Arta" which is seen at 0:26.
So unless our official language was French, which it was not we may safely conclude that this is yet another one of the well known FYROMian government propaganda schemes.

But our recognition for whatever political reasons of the time is not the issue here. The real issue is that your own Blaze Koneski and the so-called "Institute of National History" in Skopje (1961) that have signed his "Textbooks of the Nineteenth century".. in that we read:


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In the sixties of the last century two answers were proposed to the question what was to be the medium of instruction in Macedonian schools and what, accordingly, were to be the text-books used.

1) The introduction of a language common to the Macedonians and Bulgars, a common language but such as would represent a compromise, a mean of Macedonian and Bulgarian dialects.

2) The introduction of a purely Macedonian language because the Macedonians are not Bulgars, but separate people.
From this little quote we find the following highly interesting FACTS.

a) untill the 1860's you still perceived yourselves as BULGARIANS hence why all your so-called "national heroes" call themselves as such, only a couple of decades later, even though the "master plan" was to differentiate you from your Bulgarian breathen.
b) his reference to "introduction" proves that your language which is nothing more than a dialectic form of Bulgarian was INVENTED only then.
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I have many swift arrows in the quiver under my arm, arrows that speak to the initiated while the masses need interpreters.
The man who knows a great deal by nature is truly skillful, while those who have only learned chatter with raucous and indiscriminate tongues in vain, like crows.. against the divine bird of Zeus.

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My stand point of view is that

Slavs and Macedonians were mixed !!!

So i am a Macedonian !!!

And that is my born given right to a nationality !!!

The wars between Slavs and Tatars

Are proof that bulgars aren't Slavs !!!

Bulgarian scholars talking about their bulgarian ancestors

For Clemente, Naum, Methodius, and Cyril

Cyril and Methodius antibulgar missions and lectures

The Bulgarians received their language, culture, folklor etc...

Click Here
Cyrill and Methodius were Greeks who learned the Slavic Idiom and went to Moravia to preach so that they could convert them to Orthodoxy!
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Old 07-24-2007, 05:05 AM
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My stand point of view is that

Slavs and Macedonians were mixed !!!

So i am a Macedonian !!!
It always amazed me the imprudence that overwhelmingly characterizes all west-Bulgarian parrots of FYROM.

Let me write once more in this forum a scenario directed to you, just to understand what kind of gibberish your fascist state is feeding you little Bulgar.

Taking aside for a while that ancient sources verify ancient Macedonians were Greek, we will pretend for the sake of materiality this doesnt happen.

So what you claim in other words is "ancient Macedonians remained isolated from everybody, never mixed with anyone and waited patiently until 6 cent. AD, Slavs to assimilate them. Of course miraculusly Slavs didnt found anyone else there (paeonians, dardanians, celts,etc were long gone) never mixed with the 'Tatar' Bulgars and certainly not with the Turkic Avars/percenegs/Kumans, etc".

As i wrote earlier we will pretend for the sake of the argument Macedonians werent Greeks otherwise the issue is futile. Lets analyze it a bit. By the time of Alexander and even prior, ancient Macedonians according to all serious historians had undoubtedly greek culture. They also certainly spoke Greek, worshipped the same gods, participated in olympic and other panhellenic games and regarded all other foreigners as Barbarians. Macedonians were in daily contact in a even larger scale than ages before Alexander with the rest of Greeks and marriages between them were frequent.

So pretending always for a while ancient Macedonians were initially a non-greek people, someone must be a real retard to assume a group of people, having common language, common culture, common religion, common history, werent fused to the rest of Greeks but on the contrary waited forbearing about...9 whole centuries for a random-ass horde of Slavic/Avar barbarians, speaking a barbarian tongue, having customs that highly caused aversion to every civilized person, to assimilate them and leave behind in the past their greek language and customs.

Now tell me...isnt a rational person, hearing idiocies of the highest order like the empty claims you are posting has every right to believe that you people are complete idiots???

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The wars between Slavs and Tatars

Are proof that bulgars aren't Slavs !!!
So following your logic if the wars as you claim "between Slavs and Tatars are proof that Bulgars arent Slavs" this mean little Bulgar you just ADMITTED you have NOTHING to do with ancient Macedonians.

If you had a single clue you would have known that contemporary Byzantine sources verify Slavs and Bulgars were at wars with..Macedonians.

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"...the leader of the Avars... regarding the metropolis of the
Thessalonians as the richest of all cities in the direction
of Thrace and of all Illyricum,... mustered all who shared
the faith and savage race of the Sklaveni... and along with
other barbarians
... ordered the expedition against the
heavenly-guarded city of Thessaloniki... <13.109>
...and the barbarians arrived... and the number of besiegers
was far greater not only of all the Macedonians but also of
the Thessalians and Achaians (were one to gather them all as
a heap in Thessaloniki)
... <13.116>
...and the best elements of the troops of the city, along
with the prefect,... were in the country of the Hellenes on
public business
... <13.117>
Yet, the few defenders, with the help of God, came out of the
city-gate... <14.135>
But... who could carry such a level of devastation? Clearly
the one who instilled this bravery into the Macedonians, for
nothing can resist the Divine
... <14.136>
Afterwards the citizens dispatched the cavalry that confirmed
the departure of the terrified enemies who continued to flee
during the night to increase their distance, with no concern
for their items, animals and slaves... And I am told that...
the barbarians blinded by a light... had seen a vision of our
most glorious... St.Dimitrios leading the troops
... " <14.148>
<Patrologia Graecae, vol.116>

Thanks for admitting little Bulgar you have NOTHING to do with Macedonians!!!

In conclusion i am certain in your terrorist state, noone has ever cared to tell you the truth found on Byzantine sources. Thats why you will endlessly be the laughing stock of the planet!!
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