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Here is a snapshot of the Article. 179. of the Criminal Codex of FYROM, from an official PDF, taken from the FYROMian Ministry of Interior.
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translation??
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| Provided by Akritas: Exposure to mockery of the Macedonian people and the nationalities Article 179 "The one who with intent to mock shall publicly expose to ridicule the Macedonian people and the nationalities, shall be punished with prison from three months to three years."
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Where's the Helsinki Human Rights watch now??
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The new version of the "Criminal Codex", currently in procedure in the Assembly (Parliament) also contains the exact article, unchanged. For, comparation,here is the Turkish article 301.Anybody can see that the FYROMian is more restrictive. 1. A person who publicly denigrates Turkishness, the Republic or the Grand National Assembly of Turkey, shall be punishable by imprisonment of between six months and three years. 2. A person who publicly denigrates the Government of the Republic of Turkey, the judicial institutions of the State, the military or security organizations shall be punishable by imprisonment of between six months and two years. 3. In cases where denigration of Turkishness is committed by a Turkish citizen in another country the punishment shall be increased by one third. 4. Expressions of thought intended to criticize shall not constitute a crime. -The FYROMian law has nothing like the subartcicle 4. of the Turkish 301. where, in theory,the defendand may claim that his statement or act was a deed motivated by serious "criticism".
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Vasilye, how can we interpretate such a article ? Offending a single macedonian or offending macedonians in public is prohibited?? Where lie the bounderies of such accusations as in offending the Macedonians or the Macedonian state? |
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"Publicly" is defined as "outside the privacy of the home, excluding visible space from public area".Streets, paks, corridors of the appartment buildings, public building, theathers, sport halls.The METHOD: by conversation, shouting, putting posters, via TV and radio, via Internet is relevant insofar that the more audience is exposed to such "crime", the more severe to the maximum the punishment is likely will be.The punishment is more severe if the "mockery" is done in particularilly disgracing way. Offence of a single "Macedonian" may be followed by charge according to this article, if his "Macedonism" is being mocked. The offence toward the "Republic of Macedonia" is covered by the preceding article 178.There are severel other forms of ridicule which are forbbiden by the FYROMian law.Interesting, a charge for the mockery of the foreign state can be made only by request of that state.It FYROM the Prosecutors may make charges on their own, or by requests from Police or any citizen.Some other crimes are filled by plantiff only by private lawsuit, not by the authorities, even if they found out about the deed i.e insul.t But if for example somebody publicly burns Greek flag, which is forbbiden in FYROM, only Greece may request via diplomatic chanells a proposal to the FYROMian Prosecutor to file a charge in frount of Court.Proposals from police or private citizens, even with evidence inclosed, shall be rejected bu automatism. Offending the reputation of the Republic of Macedonia Article 178 A person, who with the intention to ridicule shall publicly make a mockery of the Republic of Macedonia, its flag, arm or anthem, shall be punished with imprisonment of three months to three years. Exposure to mockery of the Macedonian people and the nationalities Article 179 The one who with intent to mock shall publicly expose to ridicule the Macedonian people and the nationalities, shall be punished with prison from three months to three years. Offending the reputation of the court Article 180 A person who in a procedure before the court ridicules the court, the judge or the jury-judge, or who commits this in a written submitted paper to the court, shall be punished with a fine, or with Page 69 69 imprisonment of up to one year. Offending the reputation of a foreign state Article 181 A person, who with the intention to ridicule shall publicly make a mockery of a foreign state, its flag, arm or anthem, or the head of a foreign state or a diplomatic representative of a foreign state in the Republic of Macedonia, shall be punished with a fine, or with imprisonment of up to three years. Offending the reputation of an international organization Article 182 A person, who with the intention to ridicule shall publicly make a mockery of the Organization of the United Nations, the International Red Cross, or some other international organization, or their representatives, shall be punished with a fine, or with imprisonment of up to three years. Prosecution for crimes against the reputation of a foreign state and an international organization Article 183 The prosecution of crimes from articles 181 and 182 is undertaken upon request from the foreign state, respectively the international organization, and after permission from the Minister of Justice. Prosecution of crimes against the honor and reputation Article 184 (1) The prosecution of crimes from articles 172 to 175 is undertaken upon private suit. (2) If the crimes from articles 172, 173 and 174 were committed against the President of the Republic of Macedonia, regarding the performing of his function, prosecution shall be undertaken in line of duty.
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For example take this absurdity............... Article 182 A person, who with the intention to ridicule shall publicly make a mockery of the Organization of the United Nations, the International Red Cross, or some other international organization, or their representatives, shall be punished with a fine, or with imprisonment of up to three years. So, if I say to a, let say, administrator of the Red Cross, a clerk "hey man, that Rap CD you just boght, let me tell ya something: Rap sucks!Rappin' fans heve their both brain cell dead, yet they are able to purchase CD's.How the heck do ya do that!Your ass apparently took the function of the brain!" I may get more severe punishment (up to 3 years) for the above "crime" than for euthanasia, even involuntary (sneaking in a hospital and injecting poison into patient in obvious agony), even if he begs me that he wants to live-6 moths to two years. Get that.Only in FYROM...........
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