A question about montenegrin people.

[TirAlb]

Originally Posted by Tsontos

lol and you claim Arvanites as Albanians on the basis of their tongue. You severely lose credibility with that post. Montinegrins are closer to Albanians than Serbs haha never heard that one before.

to anybody!!!what about just reading for a moment?

quote me please the part were i claim that montenegrinians are albanians!

[Foti66]

The guy I was working with was obviously Serbian. I never in my wildest dreams expected to hear your comments TriAlb. I thought they might consider themselves ethnically Montenegrin or some nonesense like that.

[TirAlb]

Originally Posted by Foti66

The guy I was working with was obviously Serbian. I never in my wildest dreams expected to hear your comments TriAlb. I thought they might consider themselves ethnically Montenegrin or some nonesense like that.

Just because smth is new to you it doesn't mean its a nonesense!I repeat that there are many similarities between albanians and motenegrinians,we are both highlanders,we were both organized in clans and governed ourself with our own laws,we lived side by side for centuries in the same isolated mountinesand many albanian clans got mixed with montenegrinians ones ecc.

Thats what a serb(you have his name in my signature) suggested for the colonization of kosova...

The first question emerges: Who should be settled there? The most natural thing is to people them with our elements from the passive regions, in the first place Montenegrins are the most appropriate for several reasons, because Metohija, Drenica, and Kosovo are most natural places into which they flow from their impoverished mountains. The increase of population in Montenegro has brought about poverty, which in recent times has given rise to continual socio-political unrest unfavorable to our state power and very dangerous to law and order in the future. Giving them maize and pensions is useless. The only solutions is to send them to the fertile regions of Metohija, Drenica and Kosovo. Then, since they are akin to the Albanians in mentally and temperament, the Montenegrins are the most appropriate as instruments to overcome them.


...Ps.i never claimed that they are not slavs or that they are albanians,lets hope ill have a constructive comment to what i said.

[Victor]

MOntenegrins are Serbs who had a different modern political history and development.

[slavicwolf]

Originally Posted by TirAlb

Just because smth is new to you it doesn't mean its a nonesense!I repeat that there are many similarities between albanians and motenegrinians,we are both highlanders,we were both organized in clans and governed ourself with our own laws,we lived side by side for centuries in the same isolated mountinesand many albanian clans got mixed with montenegrinians ones ecc.

Thats what a serb(you have his name in my signature) suggested for the colonization of kosova...

The first question emerges: Who should be settled there? The most natural thing is to people them with our elements from the passive regions, in the first place Montenegrins are the most appropriate for several reasons, because Metohija, Drenica, and Kosovo are most natural places into which they flow from their impoverished mountains. The increase of population in Montenegro has brought about poverty, which in recent times has given rise to continual socio-political unrest unfavorable to our state power and very dangerous to law and order in the future. Giving them maize and pensions is useless. The only solutions is to send them to the fertile regions of Metohija, Drenica and Kosovo. Then, since they are akin to the Albanians in mentally and temperament, the Montenegrins are the most appropriate as instruments to overcome them.


...Ps.i never claimed that they are not slavs or that they are albanians,lets hope ill have a constructive comment to what i said.

remember shqiptar montenegrians are serbs who are slavs who in the past like all the other slavs lived tribaly with their own rules, living in the mountains possibly made them keep those traditions a lot longer than other slavs but never in your wildest dreams have they got anything similar with shqiptars, just go and tell a crnogorec that hes the same as a shqiptar and youll see where you end up

[TirAlb]

remember shqiptar montenegrians are serbs who are slavs who in the past like all the other slavs lived tribaly with their own rules, living in the mountains possibly made them keep those traditions a lot longer than other slavs but never in your wildest dreams have they got anything similar with shqiptars, just go and tell a crnogorec that hes the same as a shqiptar and youll see where you end up

slav,you are just showing how arrogant you are and nothing more!

[slavicwolf]

your the first person who's said that crnogorci are the same or similar to shqiptars. im not being arogant just realistic. whats next, croatians being illyrians too?

[TirAlb]

Originally Posted by slavicwolf

your the first person who's said that crnogorci are the same or similar to shqiptars. im not being arogant just realistic. whats next, croatians being illyrians too?

you don't know what are you talking about,you think that northern albanians and montenegrians that lived together in in their mountines never influenced eachother?I have been there,i have meeted them,and i know what im saying.

look this video on you tube.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88Hs54VI9L0]YouTube - Albanians in Montenegro-Mali i Zi-Crna-Gora[/ame]

its not about the video,but about the comments that are not typical serbo-albanians ones,but much more relaxed.
this one is very interesting!



MontenegrinMNE (10 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam 0 (Spam)
Montenegrins and Albanians (especially northern Albaniands, Gegs) have the same roots. For example, I am from the clan Djinovici (Gjinoviqi), that means that my greatgrandfather had the name Djin (Gjin) which is albanian name. Also, a lot of other clans are related: Bjelopavlici (from the son of Lek Dukadjin, Pal Bardhi). Hoti and Krasniqi (albanian speaking clans) have the same greatgrandfather as Vasojevici, Ozrinici, and Piperi - because Hoto, Kraso, Vaso, Ozro and Pipo where brothers.

MontenegrinMNE (10 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam 0 (Spam)
Also, Albanians and Montenegrins have the same tradition and customs.

[Foti66]

Originally Posted by TirAlb

Just because smth is new to you it doesn't mean its a nonesense!I repeat that there are many similarities between albanians and motenegrinians,we are both highlanders,we were both organized in clans and governed ourself with our own laws,we lived side by side for centuries in the same isolated mountinesand many albanian clans got mixed with montenegrinians ones ecc.

Thats what a serb(you have his name in my signature) suggested for the colonization of kosova...

The first question emerges: Who should be settled there? The most natural thing is to people them with our elements from the passive regions, in the first place Montenegrins are the most appropriate for several reasons, because Metohija, Drenica, and Kosovo are most natural places into which they flow from their impoverished mountains. The increase of population in Montenegro has brought about poverty, which in recent times has given rise to continual socio-political unrest unfavorable to our state power and very dangerous to law and order in the future. Giving them maize and pensions is useless. The only solutions is to send them to the fertile regions of Metohija, Drenica and Kosovo. Then, since they are akin to the Albanians in mentally and temperament, the Montenegrins are the most appropriate as instruments to overcome them.


...Ps.i never claimed that they are not slavs or that they are albanians,lets hope ill have a constructive comment to what i said.

Hey man, are you smoking crack? The person I am talking about has a last name of Milosevich. This doesn't sound Albanian to me.

[Vasiliye]

One excellent resource about the Serbdom of the Montenegrians is:

Serb Land of Montenegro

Here are few excerpts from petitions to the Russian Emperors by Montenegrin Chieftains from 1711 to 1792:

"Montenegrin Chieftains write to Russian Emperor, Peter the Great, on 21 October 1711, WE ALL ABOVE MENTIONED CLANS AND CHIEFS UNDERSTOOD EVERYTHING AND BOWED OUR HEADS TO YOUR EMPEROR. WE ACCEPTED YOUR REPRESENTATIVE, MIHAILO MILORADOVIC, AS OUR COMMANDER AND COLONEL. WITH HAPPINESS WE ACCEPTED HIM, FINE AND BRAVE, GOOD IN BATTLE, AS LIKE AS HIS ANCESTORS HAD BEEN CHOSEN IN THE TIME OF OUR VENERABLE AND HOLY DECEASED SERB EMPERORS.

In September 1742, the Chieftains of Montenegro and Highlands write to Russian Empress and express themselves in the letter WE ARE OF THE GREEK ORTHODOX FAITH, SONS OF THE EASTERN CHURCH WHO LIVE IN THE SERB LANDS - SKENDERIJA, MONTENEGRO AND THE SEACOAST.

In the letter of Montenegrin Chieftains to Head of Little Russia, in 1752, it is said WE LIVE IN THE DISTANT SERB LANDS, IN THE REGION OF MONTENEGRO.

In the letter to Superior of Kotor, Justinian Bert, on 24 October 1756, Montenegrin Chieftains say WE ARE OF THE ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN FAITH AND LAW OF THE EASTERN CHURCH, OF THE HONORABLE AND GLORIOUS SLAV-SERB KIN.

In June 1789, Montenegrin Chieftains, in the name of THE ENTIRE SERB MONTENEGRIN COMMUNITY, write to Russian Empress Katarina II and say WE SERBS MONTENEGRINS HOPE THAT WE SHALL NOT BE LEFT WITHOUT HELP and add IF WE COULD HAVE ORGANIZATION AND MUNITION, WE WOULD LIBERATE OUR GLORIOUS SERB LANDS ENTIRELY FROM THE BARBARIAN YOKE, TOGETHER WITH OUR ARMED SERB BROTHERS WHO AIM TO ATTACK THIS ENEMY FROM THE ALL SIDES.

Montenegrin Chieftains write to Senate of Venice, in 1792, THANK GOD, WE ARE OF THE GREEK ORTHODOX FAITH AND LAW, OF THE SERB GLORIOUS HEROISM AND LANGUAGE. "