dont you slavic me!!!!

[sutapanaki]

Originally Posted by spa05akw

You don´t need to send me translation. I speak and read Bulgarian fluently. I will read again B. Dimitrov (I red his texts on Internet sometime ago). But I also know that he is not the only one who is an historian. And historians sometimes do not agree with each other. When I make my conclusions I follow the RED THREAD and take under consideration most scientists, old chronicles, Encyclopedias, etc, who are commonly close to the "truth".

I understand that you are fluent in Bulgarian and as such I didn't mean to send that translation to you specifically. Since the official language in the forum is English there is no other way.
Then, I know that B.Dimitrov is not the only historian and reference point for that in Bulgaria. Some things he writes also doesn't appear quite solidly backed by facts, but at least in most of the times there is logic in his writings. And another positive thing according to me is that he writes for the general public.
I think that Bulgaria is in such a state of its development that it doesn't need to falsify history to get benefits out of it. But it does need to clear myths, popularize history and help build national self-esteem.

[Mygdonia]

I'm a Macedon-Thracian & my grand parents only knew Greek.

Thracians butchered you Bulgars from Constaninople to the Danube.

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by spa05akw

5. Bulgarians never lost a war on the fields - not even in Modern times.

1) Even heard of Basil the Voulgaroktonos "Bulgar Slayer" ???

After crashing the Bulgarians near Belasitsa (Kleidi) for every 100 bulgarian prisoners he blinded the 99 and left only 1 with only one eye to guide the others back to your Tzar. Now calculate that he took 15.000 prisoners !!!


2) In the Macedonian Struggle ..we Greeks butchared your Komitatzi ass for sure !!

I'm from the famus "swamp" region here Greek and Bulgarian partizans were hiding from the Turks ..and fought each other ...Each time the Greeks entered in the swamp ....the Bulgarians were running out screaming something like "olelelele Majka mi !!!" ..I guess it means " ooooo mama help me !!!"

3) 2nd Balkan War you were the loosers against Greeks and Serbs ..isn't that right ??
4) ww2 ..again you were with the wrong side (NAZI) , no ??

[Mygdonia]

Map of 1265 AD

Bulgars got totally OWNED

[Cadmus]

Originally Posted by Andrew

1) Even heard of Basil the Voulgaroktonos "Bulgar Slayer" ???

After crashing the Bulgarians near Belasitsa (Kleidi) for every 100 bulgarian prisoners he blinded the 99 and left only 1 with only one eye to guide the others back to your Tzar. Now calculate that he took 15.000 prisoners !!!


2) In the Macedonian Struggle ..we Greeks butchared your Komitatzi ass for sure !!

I'm from the famus "swamp" region here Greek and Bulgarian partizans were hiding from the Turks ..and fought each other ...Each time the Greeks entered in the swamp ....the Bulgarians were running out screaming something like "olelelele Majka mi !!!" ..I guess it means " ooooo mama help me !!!"

3) 2nd Balkan War you were the loosers against Greeks and Serbs ..isn't that right ??
4) ww2 ..again you were with the wrong side (NAZI) , no ??

LOL dont forget the ww1!

And oelelelele Majka mi= ooooooh mama mia ! there is no right translation for it in english...

Btw i believe that todays Bulgarians still have the Thracian genes for some of them...the rest is Slavic/Bulgarian or Turkish.

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by Cadmus

LOL dont forget the ww1!

And oelelelele Majka mi= ooooooh mama mia ! there is no right translation for it in english...

Excuse me Cadmus ... I remember the phrase , but not the exact translation !!

Originally Posted by Cadmus

Btw i believe that todays Bulgarians still have the Thracian genes for some of them...the rest is Slavic/Bulgarian or Turkish.

I think also that there are Thracian "genes" among the Bulgarians ..it would be stupid assume otherwise ....
...I've only interfered for the "invinceble" part ..that's all !!!

[Cadmus]

Originally Posted by Andrew

Excuse me Cadmus ... I remember the phrase , but not the exact translation !!



I think also that there are Thracian "genes" among the Bulgarians ..it would be stupid assume otherwise ....
...I've only interfered for the "invinceble" part ..that's all !!!

Haha! but your comment was very funny! (the oelelele Majka part)
It is a commom phrase...and very funny.

Mama mia is the closest translation which is funny to!
So the Roumliokes were masters of the swamp area..interesting that they were never subjected by invading forces Turks/Bulgarians a strong breed indeed!

All th ebest.

Btw what are you doing in Gydas this summer from august?
Relaxing/ family business? or are you visiting archaeological sites in the area this summer?

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by Cadmus

Haha! but your comment was very funny! (the oelelele Majka part)
It is a commom phrase...and very funny.

Mama mia is the closest translation which is funny to!
So the Roumliokes were masters of the swamp area..interesting that they were never subjected by invading forces Turks/Bulgarians a strong breed indeed!

Well I think that it's the nature of the Swamp that "protects" it's citizens and it is being avoided by the invaders because of the Malaria ...The Roumloukiotes wern't more strong than the other Macedonians ...it's just that the Invaders hated the Swamp

The only ones really Strong and Fighters were the inhabitans from Neokhori in the northwest of Roumlouki ..the komitatzis burned their church and from that day they were sleeping with their guns ...

Originally Posted by Cadmus

All the best.

Btw what are you doing in Gydas this summer from august?
Relaxing/ family business? or are you visiting archaeological sites in the area this summer?

Well I have to finish Hammond's "The Macedonian State" because I left it in page 50 !!! Then I have the last 100 pages of Dakin Douglas' "The Greek struggle over Macedonia" ...but I also have a great will to buy and read A.P. Christidis "The history of the Greek Language" ...1213 pages from the proto-Indoeuropeans to the varius classical greek dialects !!! Sounds Interesting.

Certainly I'll have to find some time to reread Hammond's "HoM" Volume I and help you with your lake region !!

[Andrew]

Wow !!! Nasty little fella eee!!!

[Melbourne]

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Originally Posted by Cadmus

LOL dont forget the ww1!

And oelelelele Majka mi= ooooooh mama mia ! there is no right translation for it in english...

•IT IS EXACTLY HOW YOU SCREAMED WHEN BULGARIANS SLAUGHTERED YOU IN MOST WARS. You were subjeckts during Bulgarian Empires. And you also lost wars in the battlefield during Balkan wars.

•And in both World War I + II Bulgarians fucked you, you lost wars on the battle field again, and the ONLY thing which saved you asses were Big Powers and Bulgarian retreat-ment from your lands due to PIECE TREATIES. Get it to you head for once. THAT IS WHAT YOU CALL DEFEAT OF BULGARIANS. Hahahaahahah……………

Bulgaria will always be remembered as the perennial losers in all wars they have entered...