dont you slavic me!!!!

[Demetrius Doukas]

The Thracian claim is not correct, the Thracians had been fully Hellenized long before the upcoming of the first protubulgars and slavs and they are semi-Hellenic tribe after all, what means Orpheus and Euridiki in protubulgarian?! These are Hellenic element.

[Demetrius Doukas]

Originally Posted by tankistabg

Well, more confusion you say... But if there is a lie and someone tries to prove that a whole history of the nation is a lie, then he is accused of "bringing confusion"
Well maybe I am. Maybe you find me "amusing". But I want to tell the world a message - we are not slavs! We don't want to be slavs! We will never be slavs!

I told you that the only way for you to break up completely with the slavs is to change your alphabet or to introduce some other official language in your country as a second in the beggining, not to tell you that the best way for you were to Hellenize, but you missed this oppurtunity when you were part of Byzantium. So as you see actually you want general changes.)
By the way according to you what looked like the protubulgars? Dark or Blonde?

[tankistabg]

Originally Posted by Demetrios Doukas

The Thracian claim is not correct, the Thracians had been fully Hellenized long before the upcoming of the first protubulgars and slavs and they are semi-Hellenic tribe after all, what means Orpheus and Euridiki in protubulgarian?! These are Hellenic element.

yes I know, that is not the point.

[tankistabg]

Originally Posted by Demetrios Doukas

I told you that the only way for you to break up completely with the slavs is to change your alphabet

No - they should change their alphabet. This alphabet directly descends from protobulgarian runes and greek letters.

or to introduce some other official language in your country

That doesn't matter - language doesn't change the blood. You should know that the best - you have 500 000 people who speak Dopia

as a second in the beggining, not to tell you that the best way for you were to Hellenize, but you missed this oppurtunity when you were part of Byzantium.

You must be joking. I Have my own culture - I don't need to steal yours.

So as you see actually you want general changes.)

no I don't. Genetically we are not slavs

By the way according to you what looked like the protubulgars? Dark or Blonde?

If you want to see a protobulgarian - just come to Bulgaria and look what the people look like.

[Demetrius Doukas]

[quote=tankistabg;42964]No - they should change their alphabet. This alphabet directly descends from protobulgarian runes and greek letters.

It is unrealistic (you are lunatic) the change must be made from bulgarians as a much small country.
QUOTE:
That doesn't matter - language doesn't change the blood. You should know that the best - you have 500 000 people who speak Dopia
No it is of great importance. The culture and spirit comes first and then the body and the blood(another hitleric like statement of you). If you were dark but spoke slavic and have slavic culture you will be considered slavs like in Russia for example.
QUOTE:
You must be joking. I Have my own culture - I don't need to steal yours.

No the protubulgars did not have any culture (but were nomads and barbarians I'm not intending to offend you such were the Goths, Vandals and so on), all received their culture from the Roman Empire (some from the West part others like the bulgarians from the East part which was predominantly Greek)
FINALLY:
My information is that the protubulgars were dark people with dark skin, but today's bulgarians are not because they have intermixed with slavs this is more realistic theory for me.

[tankistabg]

[quote=Demetrios Doukas;42965]

Originally Posted by tankistabg

No - they should change their alphabet. This alphabet directly descends from protobulgarian runes and greek letters.

It is unrealistic (you are lunatic) the change must be made from bulgarians as a much small country.
QUOTE:
That doesn't matter - language doesn't change the blood. You should know that the best - you have 500 000 people who speak Dopia
No it is of great importance. The culture and spirit comes first and then the body and the blood(another hitleric like statement of you). If you were dark but spoke slavic and have slavic culture you will be considered slavs like in Russia for example.
QUOTE:
You must be joking. I Have my own culture - I don't need to steal yours.

No the protubulgars did not have any culture (but were nomads and barbarians I'm not intending to offend you such were the Goths, Vandals and so on), all received their culture from the Roman Empire (some from the West part others like the bulgarians from the East part which was predominantly Greek)
FINALLY:
My information is that the protubulgars were dark people with dark skin, but today's bulgarians are not because they have intermixed with slavs this is more realistic theory for me.

well your information is wrong. On the previous page there is a article on the protobulgarians and how they looked like. You are obviously too bigoted to understand.
To say I am bulgarian by blood is not higlerist! Its ntural. No slav can come to bulgaria and claim my culture.

Also on the first pages on the threat there are info on the protobulgarian culture(all of our culture before the christianity.

[Demetrius Doukas]

Ok tankista but no one now in bulgaria practice or feels the protubulgarian "culture", you seems completly loosed it until this date because it seems it was of no great importance anyway, so be realistic yes the Russains made more slavs from you, the Greeks civilized you from the other side, you get many things from both sides, and finally in order to be European better to stress on Greco-Roman Culture I told you this many times) Some of your rulers tryied to do it (by accepting the christianity for example), others the opposite viciously were opposed to any Romeic affiances, so maybe you loosed too much time in seeking identity and that is why now your nation seems confused just like your cousins the scopians, Oh man how can I help you??!

[tankistabg]

Originally Posted by Demetrios Doukas

Ok tankista but no one now in bulgaria practice or feels the protubulgarian "culture", you seems completly loosed it until this date because it seems it was of no great importance anyway, so be realistic yes the Russains made more slavs from you, the Greeks civilized you from the other side, you get many things from both sides, and finally in order to be European better to stress on Greco-Roman Culture I told you this many times) Some of your rulers tryied to do it (by accepting the christianity for example), others the opposite viciously were opposed to any Romeic affiances, so maybe you loosed too much time in seeking identity and that is why now your nation seems confused just like your cousins the scopians, Oh man how can I help you??!

I think the discussion went in a different axis
Just know civilization doesn't start and end with Hellenism and Christianity.
You have your civilization, we bulgarians had ours. Then we took your culture because our Ruler Boris lost 2 wars with you and the peace threaty said that we had to take officially christianity, and from there - your culture.
That doesn't mean bulgarians didn't had any civilization.

Here is what pagan bulgarians had build:



this is only a very small example.

[Vasiliye]

THOSE Bulgarian and MODERN Bulgarians are two very different ethnicities, like modern Russians are NOT ethnically same as Normanic Russians, or modern day Frechmen are NOT Franks.

If you had a region in Bulgaria inhabited by THOSE Bulgarians, both groups speaking in their own language, having separate customs, culture, litereature, would think of each others as ALIENS.

[tankistabg]

Originally Posted by Vasiliye

THOSE Bulgarian and MODERN Bulgarians are two very different ethnicities, like modern Russians are NOT ethnically same as Normanic Russians, or modern day Frechmen are NOT Franks.

If you had a region in Bulgaria inhabited by THOSE Bulgarians, both groups speaking in their own language, having separate customs, culture, litereature, would think of each others as ALIENS.

you know what - protobulgarians are the exact and the only group that formed the modern bulgarians. Its like saying modern greeks arent descendant from ancient greeks and that modern albanians don't descend from albanians.

Plus - I don't have inferiority complex to side this slav people:






NO F**KING WAY