FYROMacedonian Nationalistic Web Sites, who is Behind them

[olvios]

Most of these people are known actually its not like they hide it

[Xiotis]

Originally Posted by Israel

Do forum members not think that "uncovering" the real names of admins of other sites is an extreme action?

We all use pseudonyms when posting to various forums, including this one.

If propaganda and misinformation exist they should be counter-acted with truth and solid arguments, not by attacking the privacy of your opponent.

What do you all think?

Anyone in the world can do a free domain lookup and see who owns the websites these guys use as a front to promote their ultra-nationalist historiographies from.

[Hellas7]

Originally Posted by Israel

Do forum members not think that "uncovering" the real names of admins of other sites is an extreme action?

We all use pseudonyms when posting to various forums, including this one.

If propaganda and misinformation exist they should be counter-acted with truth and solid arguments, not by attacking the privacy of your opponent.

What do you all think?

Why, is it a bad thing to know the ones who are spreading the propaganda are also nationalists?


Does it bother you that we have found that out?

[Israel]

Hellas7,

It does not bother me at all - it just seemed a bit fanatical (secret police type of tactics). It is taking the debate out of the internet world and into real-life, i.e. people's personal lives.

You could argue that this is OK, but to me it seems excessive.

No insult was intended to anybody.

[akritas]

Israel there is not any private life for people that live from propaganda. Both are creators of the most known FYROMacedonian nationalistic web sites and publishing houses .

Maybe is not bother you because you are Israeli, but the Greeks feel bad from those nationalists not for the present but also and for theirs past.

[olvios]

Its true that we are angry but the anger comes from the fact that all these people seem to ingore all logical and factual proof of certain things and cling to a dogma born of communist aggresion of the past century.If this braiwashing didnt exist in our neighbouring states the balkans would be a great place to live.

[Hellas7]

Originally Posted by Israel

Hellas7,

It does not bother me at all - it just seemed a bit fanatical (secret police type of tactics). It is taking the debate out of the internet world and into real-life, i.e. people's personal lives.

You could argue that this is OK, but to me it seems excessive.

No insult was intended to anybody.

In my opinion, I see nothing wrong with it. These people in their real lives devote enormous amounts of time to gather a whole lot of crap, just because they have a complex. They do this as real people in their real lives with their own names. How can people who run nationalist sites also be behind human rights ones?

Only because the "human rights" is used as a tool. This is disgusting.

People deserve to know who they are, why they are doing it and what they have done in the past. Just as they do to countless individuals on their so called "reports".

They are all hypocrites to the fullest.

[Tsontos]

The reason akritas did this is to show the nature of their political activities not to invade their privacy. Look at the Rainbow Party, the supposedly native run party of the "Macedonian minority of Greece" which is "against nationalism" and supports self-determination of all peoples. Yet its paid for by a canadian propagandist whose other sites support the violent annexation of Greek territory and has dreams about ethnic cleansing.

These are the people in charge of writing up human rights reports for Greece. I think this thread is one of th emost important reads on this forum

[Tsontos]

I dont know about anyone else but part of what this thread demonstrates is the reason i joined this site and why I spend a fair bit of my time with it. Look at my avatar nicholov suffer.

[Euklid]

Israel, these particular guys have made their names public, because they do want the credit for it, even with a "propagandist" title. Its all good.

You worry too much, these dudes already know about it.