Modern historians on the origins of the Slavs of the Macedonia and Vardar

[Cadmus]

Just my observations!

Some look very Slavic, others not more like the people (Europeans) i daily see here in northen europe, and the gypsies are very dark skinned, its like you can divide all 3 of them in totaaly different groupes now mind you that all are generalised and many sub differentialities are apparent between them..what i call Europeans i see as the original genetical remnants of the very first inhabitants Neolithic peoples that were there from the beginning the Slavs and Gypsies as you might know came later and are not native..same like here in Holland all are Dutch (nationality) but we have many Blacks/northern africans and Indonesian peoples...the light skinned and blond or light hair coloured people are the natives..its clerar as that!

[sutapanaki]

Originally Posted by Cadmus

Just my observations!

Some look very Slavic, others not more like the people (Europeans) i daily see here in northen europe, and the gypsies are very dark skinned, its like you can divide all 3 of them in totaaly different groupes now mind you that all are generalised and many sub differentialities are apparent between them..what i call Europeans i see as the original genetical remnants of the very first inhabitants Neolithic peoples that were there from the beginning the Slavs and Gypsies as you might know came later and are not native..same like here in Holland all are Dutch (nationality) but we have many Blacks/northern africans and Indonesian peoples...the light skinned and blond or light hair coloured people are the natives..its clerar as that!

Well, that to me sounds a little bit too far fetched - light skinned, blond, etc. are Europeans. May be such people were in Northern Europe since the beginning, who knows, but hey Northern Europe is not the only part of the continent that defines Europe and those northern people do not bear the sole right to be called Europeans. As a matter of fact Greeks have been on the continent really for a long time, which makes them no less Europeans but majority of them are dark haired. What about Russians, Slav in general - light skinned, blond hair, blue eyes. Yes, they came later, but don't they look also like your North Europeans? Then from a different perspective - Hitler looked all the way to India and Himalayas to find proof for the true Aryans - tall, blond and light skinned.

[Cadmus]

Dont know for sure but i highly doubt the Slavs had typical what we call now european features.
I am only stating what i observed, the light skinned people are very different from the other two groupes..(but i need to look at the underlying matter more carefully) im not saying that the light skinned people are typical europeans but i see them as the most likely descendants from the original neolithic or Pelasgian race(as far it is retracable nowadays) but some group has to be there kinsmen although mixed with Slavs and other groupes in the past.
But there is a very destinctive difference between the 3 groupes i have described before no they are not racist theorys because i dont favour any of them above another, but i would like to see the remnants of the original Balkanians not Slavs or Gypsies or Turkish descendants..

There were once the very numerous Thracians and Pelasgians and Bryges etc..(paonians/illyrians list goes on and on) but i would like to see if the original natives are retracable i think so..the Pelasgians are still apparent.

[chicagogeorge]