How should Vardarska be partioned?

[Hellas7]

Originally Posted by Hellas7

First of all, your blue line isn't exactly accurate however I will not harp on this issue.

eh, I decided to draw a more accurate map anyway. (albeit not perfect) but study carefully the borders on the maps... (take note of the rivers and lakes as guides)

[PhiliptheUniterchaeronea]

Originally Posted by Makedonec

the shaded 'green' shows where macedonians lived in 1912. As you can see they occupied/occupy 80% of pre-phillip ancient macedonia.

MACEDONIA FOR THE MACEDONIANS
MAKEDONSKO IME NEMA DA ZAGINE!!!

Hey McDonky, I agree, Macedonia for the Macedonians. However, I feel bad all your people have to leave if we anly allow Macedonians in Macedonia, but you said it. MACEDONIA FOR THE MACEDONIANS!!! You don't have an once of Macedonian blood in you, I'm not joking but it is still funny Donkey.

Serioulsy though, I thought you were gone from here. Are you ready to talk again or is this going to be stupid? Come dude, settle down and chat a bit. Don't confuse the name Macedonia, we have bled and died for our people. We can't just give it away. I don't expect you to understand. Lets just settle down. You are trying to provoke. I do apologize for the name calling. It is actually calculated to sting only a bit as in my opinion one of your golas here is to clearly upset people. That is fact. However, another opinion of mine is that you are probably a decent person at heart, but has been so hardened, that there is little hope at dialogue in this manner. I think maybe in person, away from Macedonian patriots and from Slav patriots, Macedonoc would be listening and learning. I am certain we would get along better, and maybe yell a bit at each other too. Macedonoc, stick around mate. There is lots to learn from each other.

[pankration]

Some people think that starting the fight is winning it even when they get the shit kicked out of them. Makedonec is one of them. No facts, no evidence equals ignorance. I don't want to degenerate into a name-caller but this guy begs the question: Why am I not called an idiot?

[Makedonec]

First of all, just because i couldnt be bothered answering your stupid theories of "mazedonien" been different to "makedonien" doesnt mean you are right. Some stupid theories are better left without a comment.
You guys said many other things which i have facts and proof to counter, its just that i dont have all the time in the world to answer all your questions. I told you guys ALL your answers are on historyofmacedonia.org and im sure that the website pretty much has more than enough evidence to tell you its not how you guys think it all is.

Nice try at trying to say the macedonians ran away from macedonia or got killed by the slavs (who in fact stood no chance against the warrior macedonians in a battle if it came to that). Again such a stupid theorythat it doesnt deserve me wasting my time to prove wrong as im sure you have read the above mentioned site that proves to you why your wrong.

Let me just hint a few things to you. When Apostal Paul spread christianity to Europe, the very first person he baptised was the macedonian women Lydia. This happened centuries before the slavic settlements on the balkans.
Lydia is a very common macedonian name even today. When the stupid slavs settled the balkans, including areas of macedonia... they didnt know what christianity is! They worshiped their own rituals. It is the ancient macedonian descendents which taught christianity to the slavs who settled macedonia. The intermixing between the two is natural under such circumstances.
Again you go on about borders- my friends Paeonia became part of macedonia 2350ago !!!! need i comment any more?

Ive read history of cities such as Ohrid and Bitola, where it is clearly stated how such cities were well populated at the coming of the slavs. There is no mention of any macedonian exodus or anything to hint the macedonians were kicked out of their cities or villages by the slavs.

We are just going around in circles here. Some of you want me to stay and debate but i see no point since we will never agree to disagree.

[Amyntas]

Sorry i m pretty busy but about that "Mazedonien" and "Makedonien" destinction here you have links to the most used german dictionary:

www.duden.de than go to "Duden-Suche" and search for "Makedonien", you ll get this:

Ma|ke|do|ni|en, -s: Region im nördlichen Griechenland.
(Makedonien, Region in northern Greece)

Next search for "Mazedonien" you ll get this one:

Ma|ze|do|ni|en; -s: Republik in Südosteuropa
(Mazedonien Republic in Southeast Europe)

Is this enough for you? Trust me noone maked this up, the germans just differ between 2 completly different thinks. A modern slavic people and a ancient greek tribe.

[Kipros_Elliniki]

Well, McDonkey( ), as you said, your ancestors were stupid! Stupid slavs invaded Greek-Roman(Byzantine Empire) lands and settled in! Your ancestors, all slavs in this case, have always settled in EMPTY lands, abandoned lands! In order for the Southern Slavs(Balkans) to make the lands abandoned, they killed every local they could, or drove them away....

Ohrid?
You mean that BULGARIAN town?
http://knigite.abv.bg/en/hb/hb_23.jpg

[akritas]

Guys (Slavs and Greeks)
Thread close.
Phrases and words like MakDonkey are not help the civilized debate. .We are not make this forum nationalistiv or net 54 that anyone can insult the other.The trolls and the spams can go there.
Makedonec if you mention again racist argyments such ethiopian e.t.c. you wil be banned. Last warning

All calm down. Please