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Old 11-26-2007, 08:24 AM
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Ehetlaios why do you have a davlos link on your blogroll? To me all this picture says is that Kemalists (anti-Islamists) are simply trying to do what they've been doing since the 1920s: promote their Turkish nationalist fantasies about having a connection to the ancient history of Anatolia and appropriate Greek history.

Turkish Anatolianism goes unnoticed compared to Skopjian falsifications.
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The mag is misguided and exhibits communistic paganism in some articles.To be exact it cares more about cursing christianity than supporting ancient greece and the integrity of history.
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Aside from the big stuff they do like the above mentioned they slandered against the reenacting group i am in............They published a pic(we were going to the Syntagma square for a Greek revolution related celebration) and they wrote we were going to a pagan ritual.And they also lied and said that ancient greeks didnt go armed in religious events which they did.

All in all they greatly support communist paganism views in many articles.
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Old 11-26-2007, 10:46 AM
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Ehetlaios why do you have a davlos link on your blogroll? To me all this picture says is that Kemalists (anti-Islamists) are simply trying to do what they've been doing since the 1920s: promote their Turkish nationalist fantasies about having a connection to the ancient history of Anatolia and appropriate Greek history.

Turkish Anatolianism goes unnoticed compared to Skopjian falsifications.
I like Davlos, I read the magazine carefully and personally I think it's very interesting and helps the reader to see some things with a more open head.

Now, as Olvios said, they're anti-christian as hell, but so what... I am.

Olvios of course has a reason not to like them, fair enough. As I told him a few days ago, I think the particular article was provoking and misinforming as well.

From there on, I don't agree with Davlos on everything. But as I also write on the blogspot, "Εις τους Έλληνες ήτο και έστι ντροπή το ομονοείν."

Voulgaroktone, you can read the opening article of that particular issue, here:

http://www.davlos.gr/pdf/17974.pdf

PS: I got the new issue just today.
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And what about what I said for them promoting Turkish Anatolianism and supporting Skopjian causes?
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Old 11-26-2007, 11:05 AM
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I also said I don't agree with everything they write.

Do you want to read something in particular, from me?
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Yes but lets be realistic I think Davlos is good when we see Turkish citizens reading and trying to understand who they originally are as today a TURK is a hodge podge of various ethnicities that once lived in Anatolia well before the Seljuks came to their land.Why not try and educate these people and maybe they will ask questions about themselves.Phrygians,Lydians,
Capadoccians,Lycians,Cilicians,Celts,Greeks,Assyri ans,Carians,Bythinians just to name a few what do you think happened to all these people what they just dissapeared??
Bulgarslayer look at the bigger picture mate bravo to Davlos for at least trying to expose the historical heritage of the region to these people.The true Turkmen are of Asian stock they never belonged to the region but thanks to Islamization they assimilated all these people into one ethnicity but here's the trick question but for how long???Think long term don't let yr prejudices cloud yr judgement mate.Think like a Hellene not a Romio!!
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It has no effect.They won't say we were Greeks but we got turkified and now we should change back or change our relationship with Greeks............Turkey is mind bashing every turk with Kemalist ideology...
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Τρομερή αναστάτωση προκλήθηκε στις ομάδες των διαφόρων ελληναράδων, χλαμυδοφόρων, ασπιδοφόρων, "θερμοπυλομάχων", νεοσωτήρων, κομματικών περικλήδων και πάσης άλλης κατηγορίας πλασμάτων -που αποτελούν φυσιολογική, θα λέγαμε, κατάληξη μιας ρωμαίικης κοινωνίας και εξουσίας, που επιμένει να είναι το τελευταίο απολίθωμα θεοκρατίας και λατρείας στην Ευρώπη. Η αναταραχή, που εκφράζεται με συκοφαντίες, απειλές και εκφράσεις μίσους κατά του περιοδικού μέσω κυρίως του Διαδικτύου, έχει μία και μόνη αιτία: Την αμφισβήτηση από τον "Δαυλό" των πάσης μορφής τυπολατριών και θεολατριών.

Για να αντιληφθεί κανείς την αιώνια κατάντια της λάτρισσας ρωμιοσύνης, θα παραθέσουμε μόνο μια φράση, με την οποία τελευτά ένα μακροσκελές υβριστικό κείμενό του κατά του "Δ" ένας εκ των Προκαθημένων των δωδεκαθεϊστών: "Πάντα θα υπάρχουν μικρόψυχοι, που θα μας προκαλούν προβλήματα. Αλίμονο, αν εξ αιτίας τους σταματούσαμε τον αγώνα. Πώς θα αντικρύζαμε Θεούς και Προγόνους στην άλλη ζωή;"

Στην Ελλάδα του 2007 ζούν οι άνθρωποι αυτοί ή στην Ιερουσαλήμ του 1ου αιώνα μ.Χ.;

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