The mongoloid origins of the turks

[Tsontos]

Attila, why is the dominant impression one gets from your posts that you want to beleive everyone is against you and hates Turks?

On various forums I notice this about Turks. They love the saying "A Turk's only friend is a Turk" etc.

Its typical of Turkish nationalism to be exceedingly insecure and paranoid. One only needs to look at MHP's massive support and the political murders today in Turkey.

Even the moderates in Turkey seem to have this kond of overriding paranoia

[akritas_gs]

Originally Posted by Lakonian

.your unification when it comes to you nationality. This is what Greeks have lacked 5000 years back..

That is indeed very true.....sadly Lak is very correct there.

[Lakonian]

Originally Posted by Attila

Reminding: I dont question bloods, you are the one who wants to discuss it and i am the one who doesnt recognize and doesnt care it .

I think my post was a lame because i did not accept your virtual-fighting offer you as supporter of greece and i as turkey. You think so, because you did not expect me to not recognize the values you worship. That's the only reason making you angry my friend, if i fought with you in the name of turks you would be very happy ( that's almost all people here hopes - "to be hero of greece by suporting it against a turk" ) but you are still just a citizen and still nothing can do except voting. Sorry, i can not deny logic and truth..

As a person who said things up above, of course to be a kurd would not change anything to me .
If you like to name people , please do name me with the race you think most awful , turk , kurd or gypsy . Just choose one .
And add on the list that all prositutes of the world are my mothers and all homosexuals of the world are my brothers..

so .. Still what i said up above keep its reality.

And maybe you are very proud of the things you believe ( actually to be proud of is the reason of beliefs ) .
But i dont think anyone would be proud of you if even you were a kurd. You are stil not alexander and wont be .


-And someone there asks that how many of Turks are like me.

Just a personal answer ; I have met couple of Turks thinking like me , but i havent met any greece citizen completely thinking like me ( I have been there 3 times - almost totally 1 year-) and many of them were just like you.


i feel shame as a human when i see that some people are motivating themselves to be proud of something created already -with doing nothing else than this - instead of working and trying to create or being one of the creators.

And i dont think you can convince anyone that you are superior , if you dont do anything than beeing proud. You just can masturbate each other.



Your gypsy, kurd, arab, nigger and jew friend Attila




Kind Regards

oh my neighbour,

you have deep issues. You wanna be a victim go ahead, but try not to contradict yourself by saying all Greeks are like me and we only carry pride of what we did and cannot do now. And making empty insults such as me never being an Alexander, why would i even try, no one can ever be him again, this is logic.

I still dont follow your negative view on Greeks and there ancestral pride??? And why do you consider being a Kurd a bad thing? I only played the same dice you did.

And why did you use the word Nigger? Atila, you see, now you revealing the inner you.

My friend your only being yourself, and the difference is, i dont judge you because of it. Thats just the way you people are.

I agree with only one view of yours, that of us, not trying to do more than our ancestors did, i agree with you there.

But then again, i dont see how your nation would respect us rising to be who we where and more....infact, i think you guys would cry....im not making fun.

By the way, doesnt it seem normal for a human to marvel and take pride of who they where and what they did and that they could never do something likethat again??? Like your Alexander the Great example

Is that not why a human takes pride? Or are you annoyed like most others when a Greek opens his big fat mouth to once again point out that " HEY, WE CREATED THAT TOO!"

[Attila]

Originally Posted by Lakonian

oh my neighbour,

you have deep issues. You wanna be a victim go ahead, but try not to contradict yourself by saying all Greeks are like me and we only carry pride of what we did and cannot do now. And making empty insults such as me never being an Alexander, why would i even try, no one can ever be him again, this is logic.

I still dont follow your negative view on Greeks and there ancestral pride??? And why do you consider being a Kurd a bad thing? I only played the same dice you did.

And why did you use the word Nigger? Atila, you see, now you revealing the inner you.

My friend your only being yourself, and the difference is, i dont judge you because of it. Thats just the way you people are.

I agree with only one view of yours, that of us, not trying to do more than our ancestors did, i agree with you there.

But then again, i dont see how your nation would respect us rising to be who we where and more....infact, i think you guys would cry....im not making fun.

By the way, doesnt it seem normal for a human to marvel and take pride of who they where and what they did and that they could never do something likethat again??? Like your Alexander the Great example

Is that not why a human takes pride? Or are you annoyed like most others when a Greek opens his big fat mouth to once again point out that " HEY, WE CREATED THAT TOO!"

I am not the one here who can teach how to read an article to a person who is over 14 years old.

I am repeating; you are not aristo , pythagoras or demokles . And i am not Ataturk or genghis Khan .

You are closer socialogically to poor old greece citizen man begging on the streets and the greece citizen thief who stole my beg.

Sorry but i dont think you would be a scientist if even you lived in ancient greece.

I dont think any inteligent person would care your screams that you are their blood, and i dont think anyone will pay you money. Do they ?

Dont you still go to your jobs to sacrifice your all labor force ? Does any company pays greece citizens more than others ?

-I have been in greece for job-What do you recomend to my greek workers ?
Are you sure you'r not eager to be one of them if i pay you good money ?

dont fool yourself. This life is real, not your ghosts.

I am just warning you for your sake, such masturbations may worth your whole life , and when your grand grand grand sons die even after 4000 years ,
they will still be proud of ghosts and will be still ordinary citizens.

I tell it to my people too
And you too ,

be realistic then everyone will admire you , nobody admires each other because of the id they carry.



Take care , less masturbation more thinking and reading.

[Lakonian]

I dont see why its wrong to take pride of what we gave to the world , and how famous people admire us more than we do ourselves.Alas we have covered this.You seem to be disturbed by how much pride we have and how much attention we recieve by all aspects of life.

Oh Attila,

here i was thinking we where having a civilised conversation, once again, the inability to face truth has made you reveal your hate.

Nothing but insults.

Our conversation ends here.

Take care.

[Euklid]

Attila, back from vacation?

How was it in Bodrum?

[SEVIL]

You're Insulting Me For My Ancestory,origin Being Euroasian;coming From The Huns Of The Turanian Land, Being Mongol Etc. However,your Insult Won't Change My Views. I'm Sure You're Proud Of Your Origins, So Am I. I'm A Turk! Eventhough Greeks And Turks Different Origins,we Share The Same Culture; We Listen The Same Music(maybe You In Greek And I In Turkish),dance The Same Way,eat The Same Food Etc. I Dont' Know If I Have Any Greek In My Blood But There Is A Big Possibility. I Can't Hate Greeks As My Hatered Would Only Destroy Myself, Won't Help Turks. I Would Like To Tell You That I Have Greek Friends From Greece Whome First See Me As A Human Being Than As A Turk, Have Greek Friends In Turkey Whome I Sometime Feel Sorry As They're Treated Unfairly By Turks Similar To You. Yes,we Attacked Your Homeland In The Past But So Did You;to Turks Or Other People. Everyone Has Right To Defend Their Own Country. However,you Can Relax As That Was In The Past,we Don't Have Any Plans Of Taking Greece From You. Past Is Past. Forget The Past And Look At The Future In A Positive Way.in Short,you're Wasting Your Time Here As You Won't Achieve Anything By Insulting Turks' Origins But Destroy Yourself. I Would Suggest That You Spend Your Time For Better Things Like Jogging,reading,studying,helping Greeks Or Other Nations In Need Etc. And Start Enjoying Yourself.

[SEVIL]

Voulgaroktonos, PLEASE DON'T TELL ME MY ORIGINS ARE NOT THE HUNS. I STILL REMEMBER THE PICTURES OF THE HUNS ON THE WALLS OF MY PRIMARY SCHOOL CLASS. WE HAD TO LEARN ALL NAMES OF THE HUNS FROM OGUZ HUN TO ATILLA HUN. I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU COME FROM AS I DON'T HAVE TIME TO READ ALL THE POSTS HERE BUT DON'T TELL AND TEACH ME MY OWN HISTORY. TURKS KNOW THEIR HISTORY VERY WELL. YOU GO AND LEARN YOUR OWN HISTORY WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR.

[SEVIL]

By The Way I Don't Know How I Ended Up Here As I Was Just Looking For My Friend On The Net. His Surname Is "turan"

[Orphic_Hymn]

Originally Posted by SEVIL

Voulgaroktonos, PLEASE DON'T TELL ME MY ORIGINS ARE NOT THE HUNS. I STILL REMEMBER THE PICTURES OF THE HUNS ON THE WALLS OF MY PRIMARY SCHOOL CLASS. WE HAD TO LEARN ALL NAMES OF THE HUNS FROM OGUZ HUN TO ATILLA HUN. I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU COME FROM AS I DON'T HAVE TIME TO READ ALL THE POSTS HERE BUT DON'T TELL AND TEACH ME MY OWN HISTORY. TURKS KNOW THEIR HISTORY VERY WELL. YOU GO AND LEARN YOUR OWN HISTORY WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR.

Don't worry Sevil, we all know what you're taught in school, the problem is that young Turks like yourself prefer using the internet for anything but obtaining the knowledge they've intentionally deprived you of.

So you were taught to claim the Huns.. Interesting, especially since science proves the exact opposite.

"The gene of Turks, who moved to Anatolia from Central Asia along with Seljuks, was not widely spread in this region", officer of National Geographic Spencer Wells considers.

This statement was not a surprise for Turkish scholars, as most of them have a similar point of view, reported the Yerkir newspaper. Professor of Faculty of Molecular Biology and Genetics of Istanbul Bogazici University Aslihan Tolun reported that research heald 5-6 years ago along with foreign scholars showed Turks were «multi-elemental».

In Tolun's words, «in genetic respect Turks are very much like the Balkan peoples, Caucasians, Armenians and Arabs, however they have peculiarities.»
«We never stayed at the same place and easily became close with local populations, preserving our language and our culture. Thus, it is natural there is not Turkish gene in pure form,» said professor of Medical University of Ankara Khakan Shataroghlu."

The most interesting part of this study, is that Spencer Wells, Aslihan Tolun and Khakan Shataroghlu all agree that the oldest link may be the SELJUKS nothing "older" NOT even Goturks.

Here's the same reproduced from you own Milliyet

It is scientific reality like this that has made your government's propaganda machine turn towards official claims on autochthonous populations of Anatolia and Hellenic history.


In the future do try not to post in caps...