To Be, or Not to Be.

[Lakonian]

Reading a book on Pythagoras a came across a quote from one of his followers Parmenides....

Estin e ouk estin.....either a thing is or it is not.

Ver interesting indeed considering Skakespear's undoubtly famous quote perhaps is inspired by Greek philsopohy as many who have read on him know he was a lover of Greek wisdom.

Anyways, they are very powerful words to be or not to be....alot of you who perhaps wont see this.....Pythogoras was fixed on reincarnation....it is a question of life or death being two seperate systems.....monotheist hang themselves by this philosophy but as Parmenides, and i quote from his works:

"Creation is not possible, because that implies creation out of some thing different from what is, but that would be what is not....which cannot be".

This amazing pre socratic quote challanges Pythagorian cosmogony, in which his riddle fills life with the unit unlimited, and fills the void of pre creation.

The denial of the void by Permenides also leads to the claim that what is, is not divisible, but homogeneous, continuous and hence, what is is motionless, finite, like a sphere . We all know the scared meaning of circles.....no ending and no beginning.

Heraclitus who is also another favpurite pre socratic of mine, i have read his fragments and his firm on change and never a single thing staying the same.

True but the cycle is never changed, it goes forward never backwards so that it may change its initial status. The motion of life is forward but with rebirth. Its not about the objects position in the universe.

Il finish of by quoting his works further:

Mortals are persuaded that to be and to be not are the same, yet not the same...helplessness guides the wandering thought in their breasts.

The judge is reason... logos.

Given that "it is," that what is, is,what is, is entire, immovable, and without end.

Neither past nor future, but now, all at once, one, continuous.

[Lakonian]

Heres a fantastic PDf of Shakespears ability to read Greek, and i think ancient aswell. i havent finished reading it.

http://shakespeare-oxford.com/wp-con...erth_Greek.pdf