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View Poll Results: Are you at all religious?
Yes, I belong to and believe in the teachings of a particular religious organisation 10 32.26%
I believe in some sort of metaphysical being(s) and have a spiritual side 10 32.26%
I'm agnostic 7 22.58%
I'm an atheist 4 12.90%
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:22 AM
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God is a living being, immortal ,logical perfect or in mental blissfullnes ,insusceptible to any evil ,foreseeing all in the cosmos and it is not anthropomorphic, it is the creator of all and father of all and part of him rules over everything, and under its many facets it is named by its powers. Dias as it sees all Zena as it is the reason that life exists Athena for its aetherial command, Hera in air and Hephastus in artificial fire and Poseidon in its liquid and Demeter in the earth.Similarly its other facets according to each ones familiarites the names were given.

Not a perfect translation , makes more sense in greek because of the etymology you see in every word but its a start.
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I voted for number 2,but i think i can define myself from agnostic the most of time to religious in certain occasions,like before and during a flight!So i choosed an half-measure answer.



So olvios you belive i Zeus?
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Not exactly but if you knew the language of the epirots & macedons which was Greek you could read from the original above like i can and understand the meaning.The translation in English gives part of the meaning.
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I went for the second choice...btw sorry for not being around that much..but ypoxreoseis have kicked in and taken me for a ride.which is gonna be a long one...belief/faith/piste to whatever that may be is quintessential.
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I also support Olvio's idea of the duality of the gods and them being incorporated in a single religion(if that's what it says)

There was indeed a very nice topic about this i think it was posted by TB,it had some great discussions and theories which i really enjoyed to read..

Just a while ago i was asked about my religious believes by a Dutch christian, i gave him the answer i believed in Zeus /Dionysus/Hera etc all combined into one...and he gave me a weird look...people just don't understand that sort of thing outhere..
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Not a perfect translation , makes more sense in greek because of the etymology you see in every word but its a start.
Not that I find anything wrong with yours but here's one by Paul Halsall:

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They also say that God is an animal immortal, rational, perfect, and intellectual in his happiness, unsusceptible of any kind of evil, having a foreknowledge of the world and of all that is in the world; however, that he has not the figure of a man; and that he is the creator of the universe, and as it were, the Father of all things in common, and that a portion of him pervades everything, which is called by different names, according to its powers; for they call him Dia as being the person (di hon) everything is, and ZĂȘna, inasmuch as he is the cause of life, (tou ZĂȘin), or because he pervades life. And AthĂȘna, with reference to the extension of his dominant power over the aether (eis aithera). And HĂȘra, on account of his extension through the air (eis aera). And HĂȘphaistos, on account of his pervading fire, which is the chief instrument of art; and PoseidĂŽn, as pervading moisture, and DĂȘmĂȘtĂȘr, as pervading the earth (GĂȘ). And in the same way, regarding some other of his peculiar attributes, they have given him other names.
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