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Old 04-05-2008, 07:30 PM
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Great post, Andrew. Truly. I like the part of christianisam controlling mases. It's still the same, though the times are little more technocratic. Take the condemnt of The Book of Thoma for example...

Also, quite interesting remarks to the Greek mentality. One must agree that the parabolics presented by you make strong sense, I've never really thought about these type of comparresment. Very interesting to read, indeed.

Just a thought - why don't you implement something like a Kudos for the post?
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Great post, Andrew. Truly. I like the part of christianisam controlling mases. It's still the same, though the times are little more technocratic. Take the condemnt of The Book of Thoma for example...

Also, quite interesting remarks to the Greek mentality. One must agree that the parabolics presented by you make strong sense, I've never really thought about these type of comparresment. Very interesting to read, indeed.

Just a thought - why don't you implement something like a Kudos for the post?
"kudos" ..you mean the greek word for "glory" (κῦδος) ?? I didn't understand your proposal partner ??
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Old 04-07-2008, 05:26 AM
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One of the earliest references to Jesus outside of the apostles, Josephus.

The Antiquities of Josephus (37 CE - c. 100 CE), written in 93 CE contain two references to Jesus. The text comprising the first reference, the Testimonium Flavianum, states that Jesus was the founder of a sect, but the authenticity of the passage is disputed. Grammatical analysis indicates significant differences with the passages that come before and after it, while some phrases would be inconsistent with a non-Christian author like Josephus. This leads most scholars to believe the Jesus reference was either altered or added by persons other than Josephus. However, several scholars have proposed that the core witness to a Jesus as a leader of a sect is reliable. The second reference states that in the year 62 CE, the newly appointed high priest "convened the judges of the Sanhedrin and brought them a man called James, the brother of Jesus who was called the Christ, and certain others. He accused them of having transgressed the law and delivered them up to be stoned."The fact Josephus describes John the Baptist in clear, unsensational terms in a passage that does not mention Jesus, is also seen as evidence he was not aware of Jesus, at least as a figure of any striking importance.

Further information on the authenticity of his writings which scholars claim it was altered by others ( add ons).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus
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Letter to his sister:

......as for your priniciple that truth is always on the side fo the more difficult, i admit this in part. However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 is not 4, dos that make it true? on the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots, what is considered truth in the circle of ones relatives and of many good men, and what, moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one's feelings and one's conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of tru, the beautiful, and the good? Is it decisive after all that we arrive at that view of God, world, and reconciliation which makes us feel most comfortable?
Rather, is not the result of his inquiries something wholly indifferent to the true inquirer? Do we after all seek rest, peace, and pleasure in our inquiries? No, only truth, even if it be the most abhorent and ugly. Still one last question: if we had believed from childhood that all salvation issued from someone other than Jesus, say, from Mohammed, is it not certain that we should have experienced the same blessing?......Faith does not offer the least support for a proof of objective truth. Here the ways of men part: if you wish to strive for peace of soul and pleasure, then believe...... if you wish to be a devotee of truth, then inquire.......

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