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Old 04-24-2007, 12:59 PM
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Communism should be banned from the planet.That humanitarian stance they have taken now is a joke, its like hitler's nazis doing the same thing.In greece when the crimes of communism were condemned by europe communists were denying anything and had posters all around saying some modern europa-capitalist monger moronity.
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April 19th, 1950


[Released April 19, 1950. Dated April 18, 1950]

My dear Mr. Speaker:

I fully share the concern of the House of Representatives for the thousands of children removed from Greece to eastern Europe by the communist guerrilla forces, and I welcome the adoption of House Resolution 514 of March 22, 1950, calling for the speedy return of these children to their homes and homeland.

The rights of children and parents to share the protection, comradeship and beneficent influence of a family home are fundamental and have been implicitly recognized, in the case of the Greek children, in two unanimous resolutions of the United Nations General Assembly. It is morally inadmissible that political considerations or technical difficulties should be allowed to stand in the way of the reunion of these children with their parents.

The Executive Branch of the Government has been persistent in its endeavors to secure effective compliance with the United Nations resolutions in this case. These efforts will not be relaxed until the Greek children are back in their homes.
Very sincerely yours,

HARRY S. TRUMAN

[Honorable Sam Rayburn, Speaker of the House of Representatives, Washington, D.C.]

Note: The text of House Resolution 514 is as follows: "Resolved, That the House of Representatives expresses its profound concern for the thousands of Greek children removed or carried off into countries of eastern Europe by the Communist guerrilla forces during the course of the recent guerrilla warfare in Greece, and requests the President to exert all of his powers, acting through the United Nations and other international organizations and directly with the governments of the countries where these children are located, to the end that these thousands of children shall be speedily returned to their homes and homeland ."

The results of a "Greek children" search on the UN website: http://secap480.un.org/search?q=gree...nglish&oe=utf8
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Originally posted by Orphic

Innocents' Day


Peace had come to battered, impoverished Greece; the Communist guerrillas had been driven out, perhaps for good. But last week, on Innocents' Day (the Church calendar's anniversary of Herod's Slaughter of the Innocents in Judea), Greece had a day of mourning—for 28,000 children abducted by the bandits and now living on foreign, Communist soil.

A two-gun salute from Mount Lycabettus woke Athenians at dawn. Church bells tolled and flags drooped at half-mast. Newspapers appeared with black-framed front pages. Places of amusement were closed all day, and for half an hour all traffic stopped, streets emptied, doors were closed and blinds drawn.

Queens Do Not Beg. Earnest young Queen Frederika, mother of three, broadcast a poignant message from the royal palace. She begged for the return of the 28,000 children living in exile "as a mother—because queens are not supposed to beg." Added Frederika: "The civilized world has remained silent too long."

The civilized world had made some well-meaning but ineffective protests. UNSCOB (the U.N.'s Special Committee on the Balkans) had verified the mass deportation of Greek children. The U.N. General Assembly had called on Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, and Rumania for the return of the children. These governments had finally agreed to return any children called for by petition of their parents. Up to last week the Greek Red Cross had forwarded 8,000 petitions, but not one child had been sent back.

Not Even Goodbye. In the palace with Frederika was a group of black-clad peasant women huddled at her side. Kaliroe Gouloumi, from Gorgopotamos, in Epirus, remembered how the Communists took her children: "They were in our village for a year. First they took our animals, then our food, then our children. I had three." Kaliroe wiped her eyes with her black shawl. "They did not even let me say goodbye. They said they were no longer my children but their children."

Said Kleoniki Kiprou from Monopilo Kastoria: "First they hanged the priest, then they cut off his mother's hands, and then they ordered us to follow them. What could we do?" In Albania her eight-year-old girl and five-year-old boy were taken from her and a rifle was thrust into her hands. Tapping the weapon, the rebel capetdnias said: "This is your husband, this your child." Kleoniki was forced into the battle of Vitsi. She deserted and got back to her village—without her children. In Fourka Konitsa, the villagers learned in advance of the guerrillas' abduction plans. They hid the children in ditches. The guerrillas, frustrated, took Sofia Makri and 20 other mothers to the mountains and tortured them. Said Sofia last week: "They hung us from pine trees. They burned our feet with coals. They beat us. When we fainted they revived us with cold water from the spring. Fourteen of us died up there but we did not tell. When the Greek army entered our village they found the dead living, for out of the earth came our children."

There is no evidence that the Greek children living in Communist countries are physically abused. International Red Cross investigators have seen some of the children and reported that they are well fed. They are being schooled as young Communists and they are expected to feel and show enthusiasm. Said a U.N. delegate in despair: "In ten years there will be no abducted Greek children; they will have been absorbed."


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Where are they now?, how many of them have had families?, How many of them and their offspring are there? Greece made a mistake when it allowed Bulgaria and Romania and Croatia into the EU without working this issue. Skopje also has a responsibility to find and deliver the information required to the Greek Government. Without it there can be no acceptance.

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Great point there Patriot......
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A failure by the regime in Skopje to deliver all information to the Greek Government of people living in Skopje and in other parts of FYROM today who belonged to the lost generation is more than enough to to VETO in the EU.

A failure to comply in terms of providing full disclosure is an act which breaches the spirit and the requirement of good neighbourly relations.

The failure to comply would also be in contravention of various human rights accords and go against the values, laws and philosophies of the European Union.

Its also seperate issue to the name, or the massive amount of breaches that have been committed by Skopje since 1991.
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I happend to now one of this children he is an old man now, thow i must say his version of the story was much different from the one i'm reading on the forum. As i understood him he was claiming that he was not alowed to enter greece even thow he has canadian passport. He seemed little crazy but i don't think he was lying.
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Since his ancestors fought against Greek sovereignty, he had to proove that he is not a follower. So Greece asked him to have the Macedonian (Florina, not Lerin for ex.) form of the birthplace name of him in the passport. If he denied that then he chose to stay out of Greece.
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I happend to now one of this children he is an old man now, thow i must say his version of the story was much different from the one i'm reading on the forum. As i understood him he was claiming that he was not alowed to enter greece even thow he has canadian passport. He seemed little crazy but i don't think he was lying.
Nobody whose birth place is recorded in Slavic name is allowed to enter Greece from the North frontier. They never check at airports, but these people are trying to gather first in Bitola, organize a massive entry into Greece and start preaching of their doctrines.

Greece can be penetrated with ease. The border guards in Myconos won't even check the papers of the tourists who arrive from cruise ships. In Santorini, there is not even a border post at all!

But the border guards at the Niki post are very vigilant, as true sentinels should be...
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