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The book that should not exist, Macedonian-Greek lexicon, 1907!

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Old 03-01-2008, 05:46 AM
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And like a typical skopjian pipraki goes into his usual hiding spot down below in the dungeon humiliated yet again for posting a book that promotes a Pan Hellenic ideology.Piperaki you little Grkman where are u hiding down there come up and confront yr demons you confused skopjian.
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Ntopia (Slavic dialect) has many Greek words and expressions. Some of them are really old: "sho prais"?? = ti pratteis = how do you do ?

But, ntopia is not a Greek dialect. The book is propagandistic, for obvious reasons.
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Old 03-01-2008, 07:42 AM
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That book is clearly about bilingual Greeks, not some mysterious Macedonian ethnicity.
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Old 03-01-2008, 08:12 AM
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Tsioulkas makes a connection between the language of the Ancients and the language spoken in Macedonia, the conclusion he comes to is that it is most likely the same language.
Note how these miserable propagandists try to manipulate the claims of Tsioulkas!!! They provide a source while they havent got a single clue even what the book is talking about.

Tsioulkas makes a connection between the Greek language and the "slavic-like" idiom, as he names it, not with ancient Macedonian as much as you wished for.

In fact the one who initially told you about this book, missed to inform you that Tsioulkas makes a small reference in ancient Macedonian language where he accepts the views of Hatzidakis and Otto Hoffmann, that is ancient Macedonian being a Greek dialect!!!
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Old 03-01-2008, 09:39 AM
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This is the translation of cover:

Instructions, Tipp-off
for the

Bi-linguality of the Macedonians

comparison of:

Slavophonic Macedonian language
to
Hellenic language

from (author)

Mrs. I. Tsioulka

Former head teacher ( Greek Gymnasium) of Monastiri (today Bitola)

And Piperkata... I was free for having a look on your photobucket... and between aaaaaaaall these nice maps of united makedonija I've found something very very interesting...

In this book page number three or four.. with the title prologue you find this:



Translated:

I am very disappointed about other "brainy" Macedonians, who do not help/participate on the Macedonian (issue or question)... Not even the last Macedonian (on earth) would bring up the love for our land...(he feels that)
I am hurt.. and for this reason I will publish examples which show that the language spoken in Macedonia is Greek and not a Slavic, like the Bulgarians claim..



(ps: sorry for the bad english )
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Old 03-01-2008, 12:16 PM
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Good point.
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Books like that are important, it is someones perspective,
Monastiri had a very sizable real Bulgarian population,
and even real Bulgarian schools, the surrounding countryside
did not for the most part, look at old map I had here,
the "slavic idiom" changes from village to village,
and the farther out you go the greater the differences.

The setting needs to be taken into account.
That was 100 years ago.

There are more up to date books I have read, articles, essays,
published in Institute of Balkan Studies, I have no links,
even forgot authors name, I believe it is Andrianopoulos ?
Or something like that.
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Old 03-01-2008, 02:16 PM
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I know what the book is, they do not own the book, I do.
Then if you know it why put again the same falsificated title ?

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Note how these miserable propagandists try to manipulate the claims of Tsioulkas!!! They provide a source while they havent got a single clue even what the book is talking about.

Tsioulkas makes a connection between the Greek language and the "slavic-like" idiom, as he names it, not with ancient Macedonian as much as you wished for.

In fact the one who initially told you about this book, missed to inform you that Tsioulkas makes a small reference in ancient Macedonian language where he accepts the views of Hatzidakis and Otto Hoffmann, that is ancient Macedonian being a Greek dialect!!!
Well put Ptolemy. Reminds me the case of the book with the name A prophecy of Alexander the Great, by Atanas Makedonec 1845, that published from the Greeks in 1905 in order to explain to the Slavphones that Alexander was.... Greek. But the Skopjan Propagandists remain in theirs brainwash line.
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Well put Ptolemy. Reminds me the case of the book with the name prophecy of Alexander the Great, by Atanas Makedonec 1845[/color][/b][/url], that published from the Greeks in 1905 in order to explain to the Slavphones that Alexander was.... Greek. But the Skopjan Propagandists remain in theirs brainwash line.
can you post a quote from that book so we can make up our minds?in case you have it..
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Old 03-01-2008, 02:47 PM
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can you post a quote from that book so we can make up our minds?in case you have it..
I dont have it but if you read the memories of Nikolaides (president of the Macedonian Organization in Thessalonike in that era) you will find the history of the Golem Alexander. The book is on Greek (Αθανασίος Σουλιώτης-Νικολαϊδης, Ο Μακεδονικός Αγών)
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