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04-08-2008, 04:24 PM
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Dear Friend Christov, Thank you for your wonderful criticism and your beloved comments. I take them as a compliment.... However, I would prefer some reasonable answers, unless you are mentally constipated. Concerning your Gospel words, I would be very happy if you could use them in your everyday and future life. Really, how better things would be if these words have been applied by your ancestors???      |
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04-09-2008, 01:08 AM
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04-09-2008, 05:06 PM
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It seems pointless to talk any further with you. According to you, anyone who has a different opinion than you has either problems with his existence, or he is mentaly ill. (chasing syndrome???) Great! It is so difficult to you to accept the value of dialogue and the expression of Word. Your posts are so limited (both in answering and quality) and you write only cliches, and stupid conlusions in personal level(acting like a tele-doctor)and never giving any actual and certain answer. Expression of opinion is a big problem for you. You are the one who should keep in mind the name of the topic, and give some answers (still looking for miracle). I am stiil surprised you didnt ask me any other personal question about me. I wont be surpised if you start asking about signs and horoscope..... Dear Christov sorry if it is so difficult to read something so long (I know, the boss is watching you, and your eyes geting easily tired, and your mind has no time to think....) Try to escape from the mental constipation Ah the name of the topic has to do with the ancestors, unless you want to create new history facts.... If you still have a problem with length or the number of my posts, please send me to the court In Pricipio erat Verbum In the beggining was the Word (John 1. 1, GENESIS) Last edited by Ptolemaios; 04-09-2008 at 05:34 PM. |
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04-10-2008, 01:40 AM
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Dear Ptolemaios, Read again your posts and try to find anything you've said about the "Battle of Kilkis-Lahana". For your convenience I made a full list of your "expression of Word": 1. 04-05-2008, 04:37 PM #8 2. 04-05-2008, 05:01 PM #9 3. 04-06-2008, 08:18 PM #12 4. 04-06-2008, 08:39 PM #13 5. 04-06-2008, 08:52 PM #14 6. 04-07-2008, 07:44 PM #16 "play the 10 questions name" 7. 04-07-2008, 08:09 PM #17 8. 04-08-2008, 11:24 PM #21 9. Today, 12:06 AM #23 Good luck! Quote:
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04-12-2008, 10:29 AM
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| Battle of Kilkis-Lahana Chronicle of the Kilkis-Lahana battle After the signing of the London peace treaty between the Balkan states and Turkey (May 17th, 1913), the allied Balkan countries felt that the time had come for them to settle their differences regarding the conquered territories. Bulgarian demands at the time included its desire to expand over Macedonia. Serbia and Bulgaria had already signed an agreement and settled their territorial disputes, but Serbia at the end did not recognise the agreement since, at first it believed that Albania would finally be part of Serbia, thus gaining access to the Adriatic sea. The treaty provided for an independent Albanian state and Serbia's gains to the west were reduced. Bulgaria, however, insisted to annex all the agreed territories. While Serbia recognised as a Hellenic right the annexation of all the liberated territories, Bulgaria sought to drive Greece out from those territories and create the Great Bulgaria of the 1878 Saint Stephan Treaty. Greece and Serbia, since May 19, 1913, had signed a defensive alliance. Bulgaria had already made a decision for a surprise attack against the Hellenic and Serbian army. During the night of 16-17 June, 1913, the Bulgarians without any official declaration of war surpassingly attacked the Greeks and the Serbs, thus achieving to occupy Gevgeli, cutting off communication between the Greeks and the Serbs. However, they halted their advance towards Thessaloniki because they failed to drive the Serbs away from Axios river. As a result, the Bulgarian army settled defensively in the Kilkis-Lachana Line and the surrounding heights. The area offered many defence advantages because the ground is totally uncovered and offers perfect observation and fire fields. Holding this line, the Bulgarians, were able to secure Serres, Sidirocastro, Doiran and Gevgeli, to control the Strimonas river bridges, which were important for their re-supply, while they secured their withdrawal in case of an emergency. The Bulgarians deployed 32 Infantry Battalions, 1 Cavalry Regiment and 62 guns. The overall forces of the Hellenic Army were 73 Infantry Battalions, 33 Field Artillery Battalions, 9 Mountain Artillery Battalions, 8 Cavalry Companies and 8 Cavalry Platoons. During the night of June 19th, 1913, 4 Hellenic Divisions (2nd-3rd-4th-5th) and the Cavalry Brigade moved to occupy Kilkis City. They met the Bulgarian outposts force which are fought obstinate. An obstinate and tough fight was conducted and our forces gained the land foot by foot. The 1st Infantry Regiment was in the Mandres village heights and east of Pikrolimni was the 16th Infantry Regiment. While the day went by, the attack was generalised. The Divisions faced severe casualties but in the end the Bulgarians were forced to withdraw towards the Lipsidriou-Mavroneri Height-Ginekocastro Line. The dark is coming. During the day that followed the Bulgarians withdrew but the war was not over yet. Early in the morning of June 20, 1913, the courageous Regiments of the 5th Division (16th-22nd-23rd) after a tough and bloody fight occupied the Kristoni rail station, the southern part of the Kristoni village and the surrounding heights. However, despite their courageous efforts they could not march towards Kilkis because the Bulgarians were constantly bombing the ground. The 4th Division fought courageously and by mid-day occupied the eastern parts of the Kristoni heights and made contact with the main line of defence of the enemy. The casualties were tremendous. The 2nd Division marched under the fire of the Bulgarians, overrided the enemy and occupied the eastern parts of the Potamia village heights. The 3rd Division, after a tough fight, overrided the Bulgarians and occupies the Levedochori, Baptistis and Megali Vrisi villages. The Cavalry Brigade marched towards the Megali Vrisi and Kastanies villages but due to arrival of enemy re-enforcement's was forced to retreat. Despite the victories of the Hellenic Army, Kilkis City was still under Bulgarian hands. However it had to be occupied at all cost. Full of agony, the Field Marshal sent to all Divisions his historic order, which showed the depth of his agony, but also showed his unbending will for victory "TOMORROW I DEMAND THE FALL OF KILKIS". Early in the morning of June 21, 1913, at 03:30 the attack towards Kilkis started. The heroic Regiments of the 2nd Division (1st and 7th) advanced against the Bulgarians. Within 15 minutes they approach the first enemy defence line. The Bulgarian fired against the advancing Greeks. At 04:10 early in the morning the enemy defence line was occupied after a tough fight. Behind the first line however was the second enemy defence line, against which the Hellenic army attacked. At 05:00 in the morning the second line fell too and the Hellenic forces moved against the third and most important defence line. An unequal fight is conducted. The Greeks were marching dauntless under enemy fires. The Bulgarians defended their position obstinate. The 3rd Regiment was also engaged in battle. The Bulgarians conducted strong counter-attacks. Due to the activities of the remaining officers of the 1st and 7th Regiments and the incomparable heroism of our soldiers the counter-attacks were driven back. New attacks followed by the Greeks. The Regiments were constantly gaining ground, occupied the third line positions and drove out the Bulgarians. The other Divisions (4th, 5th and 3rd) deployed around Kilkis and continued from the early ours of the day their fight against the Bulgarians. The Bulgarians provided for strong resistance and with cannons engaged the Greeks. The fight however, continued. At 11:00 Kilkis was occupied and at 11:15 the Hellenic flag was proudly hoisted on Saint George height. The Bulgarians withdrew all over the front. The three day battle of Kilkis was over. The victory proved important and prejudged the outcome of the 2nd Balkan War. From Kilkis, the Hellenic Army marched towards Doiran, Kerkini, Stromnitsa, Deli Risar and Kresna straits. The victory was great, so were the casualties: 5.652 men. With such sacrifices, Greece decisively resisted efforts to redraw its borderline and the demands of its neighbour over its territories. Contributed decisively to the consolidation of the Balkan map and showed that the respect over those border settlements and peaceful co-existence are the only ways for the countries in the region. Last edited by Ptolemaios; 04-12-2008 at 06:16 PM. |
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04-12-2008, 11:22 AM
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| Consequences of the Kilkis-Lahana battle Consequences and results of the Kilkis-Lahana battle After the heroic battles of Kilkis and Lahana, the bulgarian general of Serres Voulkov, received the order to leave Serres and to head to Sofia, under the fear of the Greek marching. So, he left Serres and headed to Sidirokastro where the retreated bulgarian army was gathering. Before the bulgarians leave Sidirokastro, they showed their revengeful mania, to civilians: They slaughtered: the Bishop of Sidirokastro and 2 priests 100 notables of the city and many women and children. The above scenes will be repeated in 1917. Just before the bulgarians leave the city of Serres, destroyed all the infrastructure, and they let the comitadjies to repeat their common tactics: such as slaughtering of innocent Serres-civilians and setting afire the city of Serres. 18 churces were burnt hundreds of civilians slaughtered. These scenes continued up to the evening of the 28th of June, when the bulgarians decided to leave Serres and heading to Sofia, under the fear of the marching Greek army. During the their leaving, they arrested many notables of the city, whose dead bodies found on the route to Libounovo. Last edited by Ptolemaios; 04-12-2008 at 04:15 PM. |
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04-12-2008, 11:53 AM
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| WAR-CRIMES (in brief) There are also more acts of the bulgarian occupation : Doxato village of 1500: 650 civilians slaughtered-30th June 1913 Pointless to state other bulgarian acts (before, during and after the 2nd balkan War) such as mass executions of greeks (Drama, Souli, etc atc) mass kiddnaping of children, arsonisms, torturing, arresting of Kavala Jews, war-crimes etc etc. All these during a period for over of 50 years..... Last edited by Ptolemaios; 04-12-2008 at 03:48 PM. |
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04-12-2008, 12:59 PM
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04-12-2008, 07:13 PM
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Historic truth is quite hard and hurts more... Could anyone give us some data about the casualty list of the bulgarian army during the 2nd Balkan War? Last edited by Ptolemaios; 04-12-2008 at 08:02 PM. |
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