6 Albanian criminals dead 12 arrested

[TirAlb]

Originally Posted by terastios

The half-Greek (by father) Georgios Kastriotis! (Skenderbey)

i thought it was Bosnian or Serb or Fyrom,indeed the Greek claim is quite new for me,i heard it for the first time in a u-tube clip about 6-month ago.

A north albanian(geg) highlander a greek?!

[terastios]

Georgios Kastriotis: He was also known as Skenterbeis. Greek Epirotian prince son of Ioannis Kastriotis, medieval feudal lord of Krugia, in North Epirus. Georgios Kastriotis was born on1405 in the citadel of Krugia. He became legendary for its tries to unify the population of Epirus and eliberate the region from the Ottoman invaders. He fought against the Turks for 50 years and he did not lost any battle. He was concerned also about sociological and political issues of its era, and he was accepting as prime values the teachings of the major medieval Greek philosopher Georgios Plithon Gemistos, who was arguing for a neccesity of a definiton of the medieval state and the diversification between the warrior and the farmer. Georgios Kastriotis became a legend for the suppressed by the Muslim invaders Epirotians, and all Greeks. His figure was untill the 19th Century, considered as National Hero of resistance and military success. With the illegal creation of the Albanian state in 1914, the unorganized and savage till then Albanian tribes tried to invent a medieval history in order to justify the existence of their illegal state. So during the communist era, the stalinist regime of Enver Xoxha adopted the legend of Kastriotis forging the true history, and his origin. It was a clear example of newly created statal forms which in the lack of proper history are forging the legends of other nations. The Greek Epirotian origin of Kastriotis is easily demonstrated by simple arguments. Georgios kastriotis was cristian orthodox, in contrast with the big majority of the Albanians which are muslim (90%). His name was Georgios (ancient Greek name), and his surname Kastriotis (Kastro in Greek means castle, Kastriotis is called the person from the castle or the person with the castle). The majority of the Albanian names are Ahmet or Suleiman or something like that. Finnaly in his letter to the Prince of Taranto Jovanni Antonio, Kastriotis says: " Our ancestors were Epirotians, from which Pyrros the King was born. Who won the Romans and occupied Taranto and other cities of Italy. You do not have fighters to resist in the Epirotian courage" ("Georgios Kastriotis", K.Paganel, p.156, 1860).



(If you think this should be split just do it)

[tankistabg]

Originally Posted by Makedonia25

Masolord, u guys are soooo pathetic.. Its not enough that u steal Greek and Bulgarian history, u even have to copy our music hahahaha.. The song on that video is a remade into a Skop nationalistic song, but is a COPY of the GREEK song:

YouTube - Nikos Kourkoulis - Zilia mou... parapono mou (Greece)

ahahah
Maso is sooo busted on this one

ps/ the song Gordo Makedonijo, sings "remember this piece of land, Macedonia, you sons of Alexander.../

its a sick macedonIST communist song.

[TirAlb]

Originally Posted by terastios

Georgios Kastriotis: He was also known as Skenterbeis. Greek Epirotian prince son of Ioannis Kastriotis, medieval feudal lord of Krugia, in North Epirus. Georgios Kastriotis was born on1405 in the citadel of Krugia. He became legendary for its tries to unify the population of Epirus and eliberate the region from the Ottoman invaders. He fought against the Turks for 50 years and he did not lost any battle. He was concerned also about sociological and political issues of its era, and he was accepting as prime values the teachings of the major medieval Greek philosopher Georgios Plithon Gemistos, who was arguing for a neccesity of a definiton of the medieval state and the diversification between the warrior and the farmer. Georgios Kastriotis became a legend for the suppressed by the Muslim invaders Epirotians, and all Greeks. His figure was untill the 19th Century, considered as National Hero of resistance and military success. With the illegal creation of the Albanian state in 1914, the unorganized and savage till then Albanian tribes tried to invent a medieval history in order to justify the existence of their illegal state. So during the communist era, the stalinist regime of Enver Xoxha adopted the legend of Kastriotis forging the true history, and his origin. It was a clear example of newly created statal forms which in the lack of proper history are forging the legends of other nations. The Greek Epirotian origin of Kastriotis is easily demonstrated by simple arguments. Georgios kastriotis was cristian orthodox, in contrast with the big majority of the Albanians which are muslim (90%). His name was Georgios (ancient Greek name), and his surname Kastriotis (Kastro in Greek means castle, Kastriotis is called the person from the castle or the person with the castle). The majority of the Albanian names are Ahmet or Suleiman or something like that. Finnaly in his letter to the Prince of Taranto Jovanni Antonio, Kastriotis says: " Our ancestors were Epirotians, from which Pyrros the King was born. Who won the Romans and occupied Taranto and other cities of Italy. You do not have fighters to resist in the Epirotian courage" ("Georgios Kastriotis", K.Paganel, p.156, 1860).



(If you think this should be split just do it)

terastios whats this,are you serious!?even a 5years old albainan child would be able to argue with it,should i waste my time?
Have you ever read a book about Scenderbeg?
do you know what the kastra is?
Do you know were Kruja is?
Do you skanderbeg sister name?
Do you know skanderbeg cousin name?
Do you know who the arberesh are?
Have you ever read tha whole letter you quoted here as a "proof"!
Simple questions for amateurs,answer please,than we can discuss,but please post smth of your own,and not some nationalistic crap.

[terastios]

I will if the mods split the thread with a tittle "George Kastriotis-Skenderebeu"!

[masolord]

Originally Posted by Makedonia25

Masolord, u guys are soooo pathetic.. Its not enough that u steal Greek and Bulgarian history, u even have to copy our music hahahaha.. The song on that video is a remade into a Skop nationalistic song, but is a COPY of the GREEK song:

YouTube - Nikos Kourkoulis - Zilia mou... parapono mou (Greece)

OMG you are right!!!!!. even though i cant understand the song i can sing along in our language.
well done makedonia25,nice pick up, at least you know what the song is about

[masolord]

Originally Posted by tankistabg

ahahah
Maso is sooo busted on this one

ps/ the song Gordo Makedonijo, sings "remember this piece of land, Macedonia, you sons of Alexander.../

its a sick macedonIST communist song.

you wished you were one of us.

makedonija!!!!

[tankistabg]

Originally Posted by masolord

you wished you were one of us.

makedonija!!!!

Oh yes... How did you guess. I am really desperate to become one of you. In fact I might apply for a FYROM passport.

[TirAlb]

Originally Posted by terastios

I will if the mods split the thread with a tittle "George Kastriotis-Skenderebeu"!

indeed i started to write a serious answer to that post till i arrived here:

With the illegal creation of the Albanian state in 1914, the unorganized and savage till then Albanian tribes tried to invent a medieval history in order to justify the existence of their illegal state. So during the communist era, the stalinist regime of Enver Xoxha adopted the legend of Kastriotis forging the true history, and his origin. It was a clear example of newly created statal forms which in the lack of proper history are forging the legends of other nations. The Greek Epirotian origin of Kastriotis is easily demonstrated by simple arguments. Georgios kastriotis was cristian orthodox, in contrast with the big majority of the Albanians which are muslim (90%).The majority of the Albanian names are Ahmet or Suleiman or something like that

no comment!

[masolord]

Originally Posted by tankistabg

Oh yes... How did you guess. I am really desperate to become one of you. In fact I might apply for a FYROM passport.

probably your are crying your eyes out, saying to your mum"how come i cant be macedonian"