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PM Gruevski in Krusevo: Let's make Macedonia successful, prosperous country
Friday, 03 August 2007
Let's make Macedonia a successful, powerful, and dignified, because only united we will win our battle, the battle of this generation, of out ideas and aspirations, Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski said Thursday in his address at the locality Meckin Kamen near Krusevo.
This is the Ilinden of Macedonia's future where success is a prerequisite, where we must not fail, something that we have been persistently working on. This should be a message that raises self-awareness, highlights responsibility of each and every one of us and strengthens the spirit. The message that will build the state and its future, Gruevski said, pointing out that if the battle of our predecessors - our Ilinden fighters - was for free and independent Macedonia - the current one is for prosperous and economically powerful Macedonia.This is a battle for us, our children and Macedonia, Gruevski said, calling on all to join the efforts for turning this goals into reality, as only unity can lead to success. If Ilinden 1903 was the Ilinden of Macedonian unsubmissivness, Ilinden 1944 - of Macedonian sincerity and uniting, Ilinden 2007 is the one of Macedonian aspiration, battle for success, economic development, better and more dignified life of all citizens, Gruevski said.The fact that we are celebrating the great Macedonian Holiday here today speaks about Ilinden's victory. The oath 'freedom or death' is a portentous source, defined by Dame Gruev's words 'better horrible end than endless horror', Gruevski said, pointing out that these words incorporate the energy and awareness of independent, sovereign state - the Republic of Macedonia. Today we are celebrating a double National Holiday of Macedonia. The first Ilinden 1903 of Goce, Dame, Jane, Karev and Pitu is the symbol of Macedonian unsubmissivnes - demonstration of the commitment to fight for victory. The second Ilinden 1944 of Brasnarov, Cento, Racin and Kuzman, brought together the old and new Ilinden supporters, united the generations, scored victory and created our modern state, which on September 8 - 1991 emerged as the independent and sovereign Republic of Macedonia - a unitary state of free and equal people, legitimate member of the United Nations and unitary state organizam that is heading towards generally accepted Euro-integration, Gruevski said.Opening of the ASNOM session by survived Ilinden 1903 revolutionary Panko Brasnarov has been symbolizing the Ilinden's continuity. The great Ilinden idea was accepted by the young intelligence that entered the National Liberation War with the Macedonian flag and thought for the Second Ilinden. The first ASNOM session took place on August 2, 1944, at the Prohor Pcinski" Monastery, declaring the modern Macedonian state, the Prime Minister said.He underlined that principles of the Krusevo Manifest presented historical proof of the democratic, tolerant, brotherly and cosmopolitan orientation of the Macedonian people for a battle, along with all ethnic communities, for creating the Macedonian state.Today, those values have been incorporated in the Constitution of the Republic of Macedonia. They are guarantying fundamental human rights and freedoms, equality and coexistence of the Macedonian people with their compatriots - Albanians, Turks, Roma, Serbs, Bosnians, Vlachs and all others that live in Macedonia. Equal right, as well as obligations, for preserving the common property, Gruevski said.At the beginning of the 20th century Macedonia aspired for freedom and creation of own state, today - the new generation of Macedonians is facing different challenges - preservation of the nation's identity and dignity and creation of a stable, functional, economically developed and prosperous Macedonia, integrated with NATO and the European Union, Gruevski said. The highest sacrifice of Ilinden fighters - their lives - is obliging us to reach the finish line - we owe it to them - but also to the future generations. Let's open a new modern Ilinden page for political activity. Let's try to work together on the platform for the stable, independent and democratic Republic of Macedonia, with developed market economy, a state where the law rules, solid and respected neighbor and ally. Political differences are always present, such as the case with all other democratic societies. But we should find strength to set aside the political differences in moments significant for realization of the state's vital interests, Gruevski said. Referring to the Government's activities, Gruevski said that it was investing great efforts in order to complete necessary reforms, deal with corruption and organized crime, and boost the country's economic development. Development, better standard and economic growth are the Government's top priorities, Gruevski said. Many measures have been introduced in this respect, which are expected to attract foreign investors, open new jobs and improve the living standard of the citizens of Macedonia, the Prime Minister said.The Government has been also working on educational reforms - the pillar of a society and key to success, as well as on health care reform, which should put an end to problems the citizens have been facing in this sector so far. The agricultural sector is our pride. We consider the farmer as our protector, Gruevski said, adding that reforms in this sector are aimed at providing decent life to all of those engaged with such activity. Speaking about judicial reforms, Gruevski said the process had been burdened with numerous problems and obstructions.However, he expressed satisfaction with the successful defense reforms, which, as he said, were being implemented in accordance with projected dynamics, enabling Macedonia to be part of peacekeeping operations abroad. The Government will also keep on implementing the Framework Agreement - an important pillar of Macedonia's multiethnic democracy. The Ilinden celebration in Krusevo was attended by representatives of the Government, Parliament, President's Cabinet, Macedonian Army, Macedonian Orthodox Church, diplomatic corps, Council of the Scientific-Cultural Meetings "Ten Days of Krusevo Republic" political parties, mayors and associations.

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Bulgaria Celebrates Ilinden



Bulgaria marks Friday the 104th anniversary since the legendary Ilinden-Preobrazhenie Uprising, organized to fight the fractioning of the country.

The 1878 Berlin Congress preceded the rebellion. It broke in 1903, on the day when the Holy Prophet Iliya is honoured - "Ilinden."

In Bulgaria, this is also Name's Day for those named Iliya, Iliyan or Iliyana.

In Bulgarian folklore, the face of Prophet Iliya is a hybrid of Christian and pagan mythology. He is believed to be the master of summer storms, hail, rain, thunder and dew.

Icons usually picture him riding in a gold-plated chariot, with four white horses in harness.
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Interestingly, the majority population in Krusevo at the time was Hellenic (although Vlach speaking). It should be noted that the principles and identification these people applied was purely Hellenic.

The Bulgarians only controlled a small fragment of Krusevo. When the Turks crushed the uprising, the Bulgarians solidified their position with the Turks and ensured their lives were spared. The Bulgarians managed to strike this deal with monies stolen from their unlawful raids of Hellenic homes. The fact that this uprising is even celebrated is a disgrace by all involved. Not only was the uprising crushed, but fellow Christians (although Hellenes) were slaughtered unnecessarily.

The Bulgarians are eternal losers, and the fact that this cowardly uprising is celebrated yearly speaks volumes. Pitu Guli (the Vlach traitor to Hellenism) did not die a hero of this uprising, but an idiot who endorsed Bulgarian propaganda and betrayed his Hellenic ideologies.

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Pitu Guli (the Vlach traitor to Hellenism) did not die a hero of this uprising, but an idiot who endorsed Bulgarian propaganda and betrayed his Hellenic ideologies.
At least he and most of the other vlahs who joined the uprising fought to the death.Respect for that.
ANother group who will remain nameless turned and ran to the safety of a country to the east,who will remain nameless.
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How is it that 2 seperate countries 2 seperate ideologies and yet celebrate the same day of revolution?Do we and the Italians celebrate 25 March together?Or us and the poms?Why can't these blockheads who claim hatred towards ther Bulgarian brethren see that isn't a bit too coincidental?I mean why don't the Serbs celebrate the Ilinden Uprising with their Slavic brothers?Why has Bulgaria nmaed a town in honor of Goce Delchev if he wasn't Bulgarian and only "Macedonian"??GreekSlav,Jordan anyone one can you answer this question also?
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The whole Krushevo uprising had nothing to do with "Ethnic Macedonians"! The 3 main groups in Krushevo were Greek, Albanian and Bulgarian NO "MACEDONIAN".

These people celebrate something that wasn't even a success. So with them celebrating the uprising that was quickly crushed what does that say about their economic success which Gruevski was trying to hype up?
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The whole Krushevo uprising had nothing to do with "Ethnic Macedonians"! The 3 main groups in Krushevo were Greek, Albanian and Bulgarian NO "MACEDONIAN".
Greek VLAH and Bulgarian.I think there were 2 members of each group in the Krushevo REPublic council.
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Greek VLAH and Bulgarian.I think there were 2 members of each group in the Krushevo REPublic council.

There was a small Albanian element who were Orthodox Christians. The Vlachs were Hellenes and sent their children to schools where GREEK was taught. See Ditsias accounts in Keith Brown's book.

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See Ditsias accounts in Keith Brown's book.
DO you know the title?
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DO you know the title?
"The Past in Question". The book focuses on collective memory and how groups remember. The Krousevo uprising and its varying interpretations is discussed at some length.

A very good read.

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