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| No Compromise on the Name Macedonia by Risto Stefov This fellow is from Greek Macedonia- ............
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| NOt according to Greece,not according to us.This issue is important to us and it always will be,so if you think the whole debate is pointless,why are you even here? You continue to mock the existence and validity of this debate instead of actually constructivly takiing part in it(as even some fyromanians do).You stand for nothing except to mock this forum.COunt yourself extremely lucky that the guys running things here have more patience than me. |
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No guys it is the opposite.....the Macedonians are enslaved from the Scopians by degrading their history and dignity, by their atrocities during Ottoman times and the Balkan wars and their continuoing racism and hatred towards the Macedonians. By creating distortive and degrading image for Macedonia and Alexander The Great and by many many other things. They are guilty for the stupefication of their own children by educating them in that way and making of them cartoons around the world, If I were scopian I would fly from there and renounce my parents and grandparents for such attitude towards me by instead of fixing their faults they give them to their children to wore the sins and labels of their parent's brainwashing without any guilt.
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I think the Greek government use a very mild tone in conversing with these guys. They were the occupators of Macedonia and Macedonians and have such an offendive behaviour, Greece must use the same words for them - ocupators, thieves, hitleric like propagandists and distorters. ![]() Of course they were expelled in 1913 no place in Macedonia for these racists they had a chance then to be a Macedonians to be Greek and Hellenise themselves (some of them did it but very little indeed ) the others commited atrocities and accordingly were expelled. Lets use the true names for them. Last edited by Demetrius Doukas; 10-10-2007 at 03:41 AM. |
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You misunderstood me. Yes, they have been taught some of this trash, BUT WE AS GREEKS KNOW THE TRUTH SO IT IS INSIGNIFICANT. WHAT THEY SAY AND BELIEVE ARE JUST PIPE DREAMS. I have never ever in my life, here and there and elsewhere, ever defended their position when it comes to the lies that come from the fanatical Macedonians. Never. You show me where I have defended their pipe dreams, lies and fantasies!! Where? |
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That is my view on all this. Let them make false claims. The world will never believe their claims on Greek history anyhow. Reacting to it is extremely counterproductive for Greece. |
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Greek Slav (Login GreekSlav) Makedonija Forum Mods Group Actually it is much better to call Darius' army - Greek army, since 50,000 Greeks were fighting on Darius' side against Alexander and his Macedonians, while only 7,000 Greeks served as ‘hostages’ the ambitions of the Macedonian king (Green). These hostages, Alexander got rid of only when he learned that the Macedonian occupation troops have a firm control of the whole of Greece, when Antipater finally subdued the Spartans next to the rest of the Greeks. Here are the overwhelming proofs that the Alexander’s army was not a Greek army, and that Alexander did not care about the Greeks, but his Macedonians: 1. "This was the Panhellenic crusade preached by Isocrates, and as such the king’s propaganda section continued - for the time being - to present it. No one, so far as we know, was tactless enough to ask the obvious question: if this was a Panhellenic crusade, where were the Greek troops? Peter Green Alexander of Macedon [p. 157] 2. "The truth of the matter seems to have been that Alexander distrusted his Greek allies so profoundly - and with good reason - that he preferred to risk the collapse of his campaign in a spate of rebellion rather than entrust its safety to a Greek fleet." [p.192] 3. "The burning of Persepolis had written finish to the Hellenic crusade as such, and he used this excuse to pay off all his league’s troops, Parmenio’s Thessalians included. The crisis in Greece was over: he no longer needed these potential trouble makers as hostages." [p. 322] 4. "Of the sixty-five or so men named as hetairoi, 9 are Greek, including 3 mainlanders. Of the nine, four owed their position to life-long connections with Macedon: Nearchus and the brothers Erygius and Laomedon ere in fact raised as Macedonians, and Demaratus of Corinth had been associated with the court since the time of Philip II." Note: Very small number of Greeks were hetairoi, next to the overwhelming number of Macedonians] Conclusion: Alexander's conquest was for the greatness of Macedonia. The Greeks served Alexander only as mercenaries and were assigned low garrison duties after 330. The 7,000 Greek 'hostages' that Alexander took with himself, were commanded by Macedonian officers, and had insignificant role in the Macedonian victorious battles. Therefore, Alexander’s conquest was a Macedonian conquest, not Greek, his empire can only be Macedonian (as it was), not Greek, an empire that was won by the Macedonians, not Greek. =============================
__________________ "ESTIN OUN ELLAS KAI H MAKEDONIA" strabo. Last edited by Morphesau; 10-10-2007 at 08:26 AM. |
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