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Old 04-14-2006, 12:51 AM
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It never fails to amaze me that the FYROM revisionists ignore the historical evidence of Macedonia. From different countries and from different eras, it never changes: Macedonia is part of Greece. Muslims, Christians, Europeans, Asians and North Americans never assign Macedonia a slavic identity as evidenced by the above maps. So to our Skopjean readers; try charting your slavic migrations and celebrating your slavic heroes. You can't overturn 2500 years of history just because you believe Tito's propaganda from a half a century ago. Look at these maps, then go to a library. Educate yourselves.
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Pankration the known historician George Ostrogorsky (The Byzantium State) mention that Macedonia clearly was a theme that never include the Macedonian geographical borders and established for first time at 802 A.D.. His sourse was Theofanis (475,22). Is a common FYROMian Falsification.

Now a new map as about the Ottomans Vilayets as was before Balkans Wars at 1912. I found from a hungarian (I think) web site

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Pankration the known historician George Ostrogorsky (The Byzantium State) mention that Macedonia clearly was a theme that never include the Macedonian geographical borders and established for first time at 802 A.D.. His sourse was Theofanis (475,22). Is a common FYROMian Falsification.

Now a new map as about the Ottomans Vilayets as was before Balkans Wars at 1912. I found from a hungarian (I think) web site

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Old 05-11-2006, 10:43 AM
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Maceoniae et Thessaliae Regiones

Striking and decorative map regional map of a part of Greece, with a large cartouche. Nice dark impression. From Cluverius' Introductio in Universam Geographiam (first issued in 1629) and re-issued many times over the next 100 years, with maps being incorporated by various publishers beginning in the late 17th Century

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As I see Skopjans try to find ancient maps in order to proove theirs brainwashing claims. But I want to thank you for theirs supports and the maps.
In this map as Skopjan said the term Graeciae is what the Romans called the region . But before the "creation" of the Greek nation
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and a map tha show the Illyricum borders(Roman era), but has also and Macedonia

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Nice electronical map from the wikipedia. Show clearly the ancient names of the Macedonia Kingdom.



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Intesting racial map that consern not only the Macedonia but entirely Greece and Ionian coasts. Is from Beeley and his essay "The Greek-Turkish Boundary Conflict at the Interface"
Personnaly I beleive that this map is accurate.

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A German map that show of course Makedoniens

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Ethnograhical Map 1880s - by E. G. Ravenstein F.R.G.S. - Published by: New York, D. Appleton & Co

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From the German ''Der Grosse-Herder-Atlas''

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Popolazione dell'Impero ottomano , 1911

''... * Vilayets of Edirne, Selanik, Manastir, Kosova, Iskodra an Yanyna ...''
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Greek-spoeken Areas 1910 - After W.R. Shepherd, Historical Atlas, 7th ed., with modifications
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Ptolemaic map of 15th cent (1480).It's shows clearly Macedonia in the Greece borders.You can find it in the Benaki Museum.

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