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Old 01-18-2008, 01:50 PM
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Post Did Greece already recognise a "Macedonia"

Some say Greece recognized Macedonia years ago in the 1920's and in the 80s also.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4imEolsEE_U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIwyTBjf0vQ

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Old 01-18-2008, 01:55 PM
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Ne razbervam Blgarski-Srbski!What the hell are they saying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Guy in the middle looks like Tito.
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Old 01-18-2008, 02:04 PM
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Many questions in your post, but none in your motivation.

No question in some of your own governments officials over the years honestly acknowledging that the ancient Macedonians had nothing to do with your people and that the Ancients are indeed Hellenes.
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Old 01-18-2008, 02:43 PM
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The fyromanians are so excited because in a 1920s census Greece called people slav-speaking or slavophone Macedonians(done mainly to avoid calling them Bulgarians or Serbians in order not to offend one of them and favour the other).Those idiots think that means Greece recognized "ethnic Macedonians".ANd yet they complain that they were forcefully assimilated back then(last names and town names changed).Well which one is it fyromanians,recognition or assimilation?YOu cant have it both ways!
They also dont understand that Greece didnt have a big problem with a geographical region called Macedonia in YUgoslavia after Tito.What Greece never accepted(and never will) was an ethnic identity called "Macedonian".Greece never dealt with Skopje inthose days,only Belgrade,so as far as Greece was concerned they were all Yugoslavs.After fyroms independance in 1991,Greece smartly realized that in order to continue not recognizing an "ethnic Maceedonian" identity she had not recognize and protest the name of the new country as well.
THese fyromanians have such little faith in there identity that they have to distort everything,which is natural for them since the whole creation of fyrom was a huge distortion.
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Greece called people slav-speaking or slavophone Macedonians(done mainly to avoid calling them Bulgarians or Serbians in order not to offend one of them and favour the other).
Assuming it's not a forgery. That census mentioned Serbs and Bulgarians separately from "Macedonians", however I think you're falling into the trap of believing that those "Macedonians" were necessarily Slavs. They could have been Greek Macedonians.
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Assuming it's not a forgery. That census mentioned Serbs and Bulgarians separately from "Macedonians", however I think you're falling into the trap of believing that those "Macedonians" were necessarily Slavs. They could have been Greek Macedonians.
What exact year is this census from,and when has Greece ever recognized any Serbs in Macedonia?
They dont really put the forms on camera for very long,and even when paused,they arent that clear.
Now that you mention it,forgery(or blurring the truth) isnt out of the question.They are fyromanians after all.

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Old 01-18-2008, 03:25 PM
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Victor, this "census" was first spoken of on Rainbow Party's website (here), all the details are there.

An observation: how amateurish Skopjian national television (youtube videos above) must be if an entry on florina.org can make it into their news reports. The same is true with makfax in articles such as this where they quote the umdiaspora.org website. Can you imagine CNN, BBC or any other reliable news agency published articles about entries of fringe websites.
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So Macedonians in Thessaly has to mean "ethnic Macedonians" to them,but they cant find anyone who comes from just north of there,the "lost" capital of "Solun".THis fantasy of them representing all of Greek Macedonia is a joke in the face of at least 95% of the Greek fyromanians having origins limited to the Florina,Kastoria,and Edessa areas.
In this maxfax article,a Greek opposition party leader visited fyrom government officials in Skopje in November,but Lubi and the maknuts are upset because Dora met with Albanian politicians in Skopje.Nice double standard,not to mention ignorant.THis happens all the time you idiots!!!
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Old 01-18-2008, 05:28 PM
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clutching at straws these people any word with macedonia in it they claim......
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This is nothing new but the first time I have seen a news cast about it. Usually it was just a cut and paste job by makburdes.

I have looked over the pics and what I have noticed is the lettering of the countries compared to the word 'Macedonia' on the map. There are some other things I have seen that made me think they were possibly doctored using photoshop.
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