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Old 11-19-2006, 09:03 AM
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dont tell us that we are blind and deaf because the people who have gathered here did choose to do some research to find out whether our believes and views are true or if we are wrong. We do not claim anything that isnt rightfull ours we are just defending our heritage which nationalists like you want to lay claims on.

Instead of just calling us nationalists you just probably just take some time and read the articles (which are all well researched) and then rethink your personal views because the way you see things you (and i mean all of you confused fellows) will only cause trouble and tensions between our people.
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Old 11-19-2006, 02:01 PM
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By reading your pages about the Republic of Macedonia I am startled by your illogical and nationalist reactions. Today we beat us to build multinational, multicultural, multilinguistic Europe but countries as Greece which recognizes only a single nation on its territory A purely nationalist propaganda and against the European politics is. The Macedonia is a country dating since thousand years in spite of the attacks of assimilation of his people on behalf of Bulgaria, Greece and Serbia. The Macedonian people knew how to fight all the foreign propagandas and build a multinational country where each finds its freedom of expression and a national identity but let us see Greece where nations are discriminated thanks to the Greek nation.

How you explain that:
• Alexandre le Grand is Greek knowing that its country called the good Macedonia and not Greece is his parents were Macedonian? • The North of Greece not be no Macedonian territory?
• In Greece do not exist of Macedonians? I to you says to he: because Greece is afraid of opinion European which will discover the truth of Greek propaganda in Macedonia.
Show we that you be the European truths and let us build multicultural, multinational, European Balkan with the respect to all nations.
Oh my goodness where do we start with this jingoism. Attacking Greek nationalism. This is indeed funny. Nationalism is a double edged sword. Do be careful. No sense responding to all of your gibberish, please read through the site. Back up your opnions with scientific data and researched information. As for Greek propaganda, , ok, we'll leave it at that. I suggest some good texts, I would be more than happy to help you with that. If you are really the go getting yong whipper snapper and are still in your uni days, go digging in Macedonia. You better brush up on your Greek though, everything you dig up will be written in that language. Yes even before, Philip's time. If you want truth, go digging.
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Old 11-19-2006, 07:20 PM
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1903 is welcome comic relief. Just when I thought that all the idiots who try to spew their anti-Hellenic venom were gone we get this guy and in a long list of morons, we have a new champion. Bravo 1903 for proving beyond any doubt that the skops with brains mind their own business in order to let their half-wit cousins fight the losing battle.
If I were you, I'd read Philip's post twice and take his advice.
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Old 11-19-2006, 08:07 PM
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1903,please look at this and give us your explanation:


http://www.thebritishmuseum.ac.uk/compass/...-button=summary

Dedication by Alexander the Great to Athena Polias

Greek, around 330 BC
From Priene, Asia Minor



In 336 BC Alexander the Great embarked on a programme of territorial expansion, which would eventually extend the boundaries of the Greek world to Egypt in the south and to India in the East. In 334 BC Alexander crossed the Hellespont, the narrow strait separating Europe and Asia, and went first to Troy. There he dedicated his armour to Athena and laid a wreath at the tomb of Achilles, the legendary hero and champion of the Greeks in the Trojan War. This act prefigured Alexander's role as a new Achilles liberating the Greek cities of Asia Minor from Asiatic rule.

That same summer of 334 BC, a successful engagement with the Persian army at the river Granicus, east of Troy, opened the gates of Asia Minor, and Alexander proceeded to tour the Greek cities of the west coast, expelling their Persian garrisons.

On reaching Priene, he made a further dedication to Athena. There the townspeople were laying out their new city and building a temple to its patron goddess. Alexander offered funds to complete the temple, and the inscription on this wall block, cut into a block of marble, records his gift. The inscription was found in the nineteenth century by the architect-archaeologist Richard Pullan leading an expedition on behalf of the Society of Dilettanti. It reads: 'King Alexander dedicated the Temple to Athena Polias'
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Old 11-20-2006, 05:51 AM
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By reading your pages about the Republic of Macedonia I am startled by your illogical and nationalist reactions. Today we beat us to build multinational, multicultural, multilinguistic Europe but countries as Greece which recognizes only a single nation on its territory A purely nationalist propaganda and against the European politics is. The Macedonia is a country dating since thousand years in spite of the attacks of assimilation of his people on behalf of Bulgaria, Greece and Serbia. The Macedonian people knew how to fight all the foreign propagandas and build a multinational country where each finds its freedom of expression and a national identity but let us see Greece where nations are discriminated thanks to the Greek nation.

How you explain that:
• Alexandre le Grand is Greek knowing that its country called the good Macedonia and not Greece is his parents were Macedonian? • The North of Greece not be no Macedonian territory?
• In Greece do not exist of Macedonians? I to you says to he: because Greece is afraid of opinion European which will discover the truth of Greek propaganda in Macedonia.
Show we that you be the European truths and let us build multicultural, multinational, European Balkan with the respect to all nations.


oh God...yet another genius..it seems like they are coming in droves from this fantasy land called FYROM
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Old 11-20-2006, 05:54 AM
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oh nooo lets not offend the dopey donskis...because as this einstein puts it..'in greece do not exist of macedonians'? now im not sure wat exactly our friend here is trying to say, maybe he culd repeat wat he said in makedonski so Christov can translate hahaa
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bidejki imate preveduvac togas mozam slobodno da vi pisuvam na makedonski jazik. vie kako i da e morate da razberete edno sto deka makedonija dosega opstanala i ke opstane, drugo naseto kulturno bogatstvo sto go kradevte dosega bez nikakvi precki eden den ke morate da go vratite. otkako makedonija e samostojna drzava vie stravuvate i se pravite da i nastedite na makedonija bidejki morate da go vratite ona sto ne e vase ;;;christov trnslite it to your greeks friends i am sur some of these can read macedonian the language of alexander of macedon
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Old 11-20-2006, 04:30 PM
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.......christov trnslite it to your greeks friends i am sur some of these can read macedonian the language of alexander of macedon
that is exactly your problem. You believe that nationalistic bullshit about alexander the great being one of you and speaking your (slavic) language. Go grab a book

or simply look at this pic and tell us what alexander of macedon wanted to say. Because it is writting by him!

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Old 11-20-2006, 05:04 PM
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you know what Alexander would say to you in perfect Greek,if he would be reading your theories? Της μητρος σου το αιδιον! ...that unfortunately i know how to say in your bulgarian language,but i don't know how to write.
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bidejki imate preveduvac togas mozam slobodno da vi pisuvam na makedonski jazik. vie kako i da e morate da razberete edno sto deka makedonija dosega opstanala i ke opstane, drugo naseto kulturno bogatstvo sto go kradevte dosega bez nikakvi precki eden den ke morate da go vratite. otkako makedonija e samostojna drzava vie stravuvate i se pravite da i nastedite na makedonija bidejki morate da go vratite ona sto ne e vase ;;;christov trnslite it to your greeks friends i am sur some of these can read macedonian the language of alexander of macedon

serte gupsy se pravije makedoncite sega

oloi oi gyftoi tha ginoun makedones tora
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