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Default Etymology of the 70 most famous ancient Epirotan names

1. ALEXANDROS (ÁëÝîá*äñïò) m Ancient Greek (ALEXANDER Latinized)
Pronounced: al-eg-ZAN-dur
From the Greek name Alexandros, which meant ‘defending men’ from Greek alexein ‘to defend, protect, help’ and aner ‘man’ (genitive andros). Alexander the Great, King of Macedon, is the most famous bearer of this name. The name was found also in Epirus, Thessaly, Corinth.

2. PYRRHOS (Ðýññïò) m Ancient Greek (PYRRHUS Latinized)
Most famous bearers of this name are the Son of Achilles and Dieidameia and also Pyrrhos the Epirotan king, one of the best tacticians in ancient world. The name derives from the greek adj. Pyrrhos (= auburn).

3. ALKETAS (ÁëêÝôáò) m Ancient Greek (ALCAEUS Latinized)
Pronounced: al-SEE-us
Derived from Greek Áëêç meaning ‘strength’. This was the name of a 7th-century BC lyric poet from the island of Lesbos.

4. ARRYBAS (Áñ[ñ]ýâáò) m Ancient Greek
King of the Molossians. He was uncle of Olympias and Alexander of Epirus.
It derives from the greek verb ñýïìáé (= protect) + âáß*ù (= go). Its full meaning is "go to protect".

5. ALKON (¶ëêù*) m Ancient Greek
Possibly a king of Molossians. His name exists in the list of the "best of Greeks" attended to the court of the tyrant Cleisthenes of Sicyon in order to contest about his daughter's hand. His name derives from ¶ëêç (=strenght)

6. NEOPTOLEMOS (Íåïðôüëåìïò) m Ancient Greek
Son of Achilles. Also the same name bore kings of Molossia. Means ‘new war’, derived from Greek neos ‘new’ and polemos ‘war’.

7. ADMETOS (¶äìçôïò) m Ancient Greek
It was the name of the Molossian king at the time Themistocles fled to the court of Molossians. Derives from the word a+damaw(damazw) and mean tameless,obstreperous.Damazw mean chasten, prevail

8. AEACIDES (Áéáêßäçò) m Ancient Greek
King of Epirus, father of Pyrrhos. His name means the descedant of Aeacos.

9. POLYXENA (ÐïëõîÝ*ç) f ancient Greek
The original name of Olympias, mother of Alexander the great, as a child. (W. Heckel) It derives from the greek adj. Ðïëýîå*ïò (= very hospitable).

[b]10. OLYMPIAS (OëõìðéÜäá) f Ancient Greek
Mother of Alexander the Great. She took this name after her husband's success in Olympic games. It means "the one related with Olympus/Olympics"

11. ANDROCLES (Á*äñïêëÞò) m Ancient Greek
One of the two Molossians who saved the infant Pyrrhos. It derives from the greek noun "á*Þñ" (= man (genitive andros)) + Kleos (glory).

12. ARISTOMACHOS (Añéóôüìá÷ïò) m Ancient Greek
Aristomachos was from Omfalos. His name was found in a inscription of Dodona in 343-331a. (SGDI II 1334 — Cabanes, L'Épire (1976) 540,4)
Derived from the Greek adj aristos (=best) + Mache (=war). Its full meaning is "best on war".

13. MENEDAMOS (Ìå*Ýäáìïò) m Ancient Greek
Menedamos was from Omfalos.His name was found in a inscription of Dodona in 343-331a. (SGDI II 1334 — Cabanes, L'Épire (1976) 540,4). His name derives from from Greek meno (=to last, to withstand) + damos (doric of demos "people") Its full meaning is "the one who withstands people"

14. AMYNANDROS (Áìý*á*äñïò) m Ancient Greek
Amynandros was son of Eryxis. His name was found on Molossian decrees. It derives from the greek verb áìý*ù (=defend) + aner (=‘man’ (genitive andros)). Its full meaning is " to defend men"

15. DOKIMOS (Äüêéìïò) m Ancient Greek
Çå was son of Eryxis ánd brother of Amynandros. His name was found on Molossian decrees. It derives from greek adj. Äüêéìïò (=superb)

16. TROAS(ÔñùÜò) f ancient Greek
Sister of Olympias and wife of her uncle Arrybas. Her name means "The one from Troy". According to the legend the Molossian royal house had an ancestry also from Troy.

17. AGATHON (ÁãÜèù*) M Ancient Greek
Agathon was son of Echephylos. His name is found on the Molossian decrees.
His name derives from greek noun "áãáèÜ"(=wealth) meaning the "one who has wealth".

18. BEROE (Båñþç) f Ancient Greek
Daughter of king Arrybas and wife of the Illyrian king Glaukos. She brought up Pyrrhos when he was a child. Her name derives from the greek verb "öÝñù" (=bring ie in north-west greek dialect f becomes b)

19. MEGAS (MÝãáò) m Ancient Greek
Megas was an Epirotan, son of Sinon. His name was found on the Molossian decrees. His name derives from the greek adj "ìÝãáò" (=great).

20. PHILOXENOS (Öéëüîå*ïò) m Ancient Greek
He was an Epirotan from Dodone. His name was found on the Molossian decrees. Meaning ‘friend of strangers’ derived from Greek philos meaning friend and xenos meaning ‘stranger, foreigner’.

21. KLEOMACHOS (Êëåüìá÷ïò) m Ancient Greek
Kleomachos was an Atintanian. His name was found on the molossian decrees. It derives from Greek kleos (=glory) + Mache (=war)

22. EUALKOS (Eýáëêïò) m Ancient Greek
He was a Molossian. His name was found on c. 232-168a. ( Epigrafia romana in area Adriatica (1998) 29, 1 ) It derives from greek adj ÅõáëêÞò (=strong, powerful)

23. LYKIDAS (Ëõêßäáò) m Ancient Greek
He was a chaonian. His name was found on c. 232-168a. ( Epigrafia romana in area Adriatica (1998) 29, 1). It derives from Ëýêç (=bright) + the greek ending -das. It means "the bright".

24. AISCHRION (Áéó÷ñßù*) m Ancient Greek
His name was found in an inscription of Dodona (c. 300a. — JHS 74 (1954) 56-58) It derives from the greek adj. Áéó÷ñüò (=shameful). + greek ending -ion. it means the descedant of Aischros.

25. Hellinos (Åëëç*ïò) m Ancient Greek
A Chaonian, father of Lykidas and His name was found on c. 232-168a. ( Epigrafia romana in area Adriatica (1998) 29, 1). His name derives from Hellene (=Greek).

26. AGISANDROS (ÁãÞóá*äñïò) m Ancient Greek
Son of Lamiskos from Bouthrotion, (Epeiros — Bouthrotos (Butrint) — c. 232-168a. — Epigrafia romana in area Adriatica (1998) 29, 1 )
His name derives from the greek verb ¶ãù (=lead) + Á*äñüò (= men, dotic of aner). Its full meaning is "the one who leads men".

27. APOLLODOROS m Ancient Greek
Means ‘gift of Apollo’ from the name of the god Apollo combined with Greek doron ‘gift’. The patronymic of an epirotan found on Bouthrotos (Epeiros — Bouthrotos (Butrint) — c. 232-168a. — Epigrafia romana in area Adriatica (1998) 29, 1)

28.NIKANOR (NéêÜ*ùñ) m ancient Greek
It means "victor" - from Nike (Íéêç) meaning "victory".
Nicanor was a common name in Epirus as it was found on many inscriptions.(Epigr. tou Oropou 136 c. 240-180a )

29. ARCHEDAMOS (Áñ÷Ýäáìïò) m ancient Greek
Arcedamos was an epirotan from Bouthrotos. (Bouthrotos (Butrint) — c. 232-168a. — Epigrafia romana in area Adriatica (1998) 29, 1 ) His name derive from greek verb ¶ñ÷ù (=head or be in command) + Äáìüò (= people, doric of demos).

30.ANTIGONE f ancient Greek
Usage: Greek Mythology Pronounced: an-TIG-o-nee
Means ‘against birth’ from Greek anti ‘against’ and gone ‘birth’. In Greek legend Antigone was the daughter of Oedipus and Jocasta. She was the name of a Molossian woman. (IG II² 9972 Attica )

31. HEKATAIOS m Ancient Greek
He was a Molossian. (Amyzon 59 Fragment of list of stephanephoroi, including [Chion]is Chionidos, on block of white marble; II2/I; found at Amyzon: Robert, Amyzon no. 52 (PH); BE 1984:429. ) It means the "one who belongs to the goddess Hecate)

32. KALLIPHON (Êáëëéöþ*) m Ancient Greek
Kalliphon was a Molossian and his name was found in an inscription. (Magnesia 49 Decree of boule and demos of Paros accepting invitation of Magnesia Mai. to Leukophryena) It derives from Kallos (=beauty) + öù*Þ (=voice). It means the "one who has beautiful voice"

33. LEON (ËÝù*) m Ancient Greek
Á Molossian. His name was found in an inscription (Olymos 57 Caria). It derives from 'Leon' = 'lion'

34. ARTEMIDOROS (Áñôåìßäùñïò) m Ancient Greek
He was a Molossian. (Aphrodisias 32 Caria)His name derives from the name Artemis and äþñï (=gift). Its full meaning is "gift from Artemis".

35. DIODOROS (Äéüäùñïò) m Ancient Greek
He was a Molossian. (Aphrodisias 306 Caria) His name derives from the name Äéáò and äþñï (=gift). Its full meaning is "gift from Dias/Zeus".

36. ANTIPATROS (Á*ôßðáôñïò) m Ancient Greek (ANTIPATER Latinized)
Pronounced: an-TI-pa-tur
From the Greek name Antipatros, which meant ‘like the father’ from Greek anti ‘like’ and pater ‘father’. This was the name of an Epirote found in an inscription. (ID 298 Delos — 240 a)

37. ASKLÁPIOS (Áóêëçðéüò) m Ancient Greek
He was a Chaonian and son of Andronikos (Bouthrotos (Butrint) — c. 220-170/160a.) His name is taken from the god Asklepios.

38. ARISTOKLEIA (Áñéóôüêëåéá) f ancient Greek
She was daughter of Aristoteles. (IG II² 8532 attica )
Derived from the Greek elements aristos ‘best’ and kleos ‘glory’.

39. ARISTOTELES (ÁñéóôïôÝëçò) m Ancient Greek (ARISTOTLE Latinized)
Pronounced: AR-is-taw-tul
From the Greek name Aristoteles which meant ‘the best purpose’, derived from aristos ‘best’ and telos ‘purpose, aim’. This was the name also of an important Greek philosopher who made contributions to logic, metaphysics, ethics and biology among many other fields.

40. KALLIAS (Êáëëßáò) m Ancient Greek
An Epirotan.(IG II² 8546 Attica) His name derives from the greek adj. Kallias (=peaceful)

41. PHILIPPOS (Ößëéððïò) m Ancient Greek (PHILIP Latinized)
Pronounced: FIL-ip
From the Greek name Philippos which means ‘friend of horses’, composed of the elements philos ‘friend’ and hippos ‘horse’. The name was borne by five kings of Macedon, including Philip II the father of Alexander the Great and also by Thessalians and Epirotans (IG XI,4 635 Delos — med III a)

42. BERENIKE (Âåñå*ßêç) f Ancient Greek (BERENICE Latinized)
Pronounced: ber-e-NIE-see
Means ‘bringing victory’ from pherein ‘to bring’ and nike ‘victory’. This name was common among the Ptolemy ruling family of Egypt as well into Epirus and Macedonia. (Agora 17 456 Attica)

43. FILON (Öéëù*) m Ancient Greek
An Epirotan. (IG XII,8 594 Thasos) His name derives from Filos (=friend)

44. ARISTOKLES (ÁñéóôïêëÞò) m Ancient Greek
A Molossian, son of Artemidoros. (Aphrodisias 32 Caria) His name derives from Ariston (=best) + Kleos (=glory).

45. STRATONIKE (Óôñáôï*ßêç) f Ancient Greek (STRATONICE Latinized)
Means ‘victorious army’ from stratos ‘army’ and nike ‘victory’. According to W. Heckel, one of the names of Olympias.

46. GLAUKOS (Ãëáýêïò) m Ancient Greek
An Epirotan. (IG II² 8533 Attica) It derives from the greek adj. "Ãëáõêüò" (= brilliant).

47. FALAKRION (Öáëáêñßù*) m Ancient Greek
He was a Thesprotian. (IG IV²,1 99,II Epidauria). It derives from the greek noun "Falakros" and has the meaning of "bald". Its full meaning is "the descendant of Falakros.

48. ANTIOCHOS (Á*ôßï÷ïò) m Ancient Greek
An Epirotan, son of Nikanor. (I.Kourion 60 Kypros — Kourion — c. 250a.)

49. DEINON (Äåß*ù*) m Ancient Greek
An Epirotan. (IG XI,4 635 Delos — med III a). His name derives from 'deinow' = 'to make terrible'.

50. EYTYCHIS (Åõôõ÷ßò) f Ancient Greek
Epirotan woman, daughter of Neoptolemos (IG II² 8535 Attica)
Her namer derives from the greek noun Åõôõ÷ßá (=Happiness)

51. LEONTIS (Ëåù*ôßò) f Ancient Greek
Epirotan, daughter of Nikados (IG II² 8539 Attica). It derives from Greek noun Leon (=Lion)

52. NIKADOS (Íßêáäïò) m Ancient Greek
An epirotan. (IG II² 8539 Attica). It means "the descedant of Nikon".

53. PATROKLOS (ÐÜôñïêëïò) m Ancient Greek
An Epirotan. (Epigr. tou Oropou 586) A Mythological name. It derives from the greek ðÜôçñ (=father) + kleos (=glory).

54. FANIAS (Öá*ßáò) m Ancient Greek
A Molossian. (Aphrodisias 306 Caria) One of the most common Greek names, specially found in Athens.

55. RODIOS (Ñüäéïò) m Ancient Greek
An Epirotan, son of Rodippos. (IG II² 8544 Attica). It derives from the noun ñüäç(=rose)

56. LYSIAS (Ëõóßáò) m Ancient Greek
An Epirotan. (IG XII,Suppl 631 Euboia — Eretria — IIIa.) It derives from the greek adj. Lysios (=the one who liberates)

57. RODIPPOS (Ñüäéððïò) m Ancient Greek
An Epirotan (IG II² 8544 Attica). It derives from the It derives from the adj ñüäçò(=too handsome) + ßððïò (=horse). Its full meaning is "too beautiful horse"

58. FILOTEIA (Öéëùôåßá) f ancient Greek
An Epirotan woman. (SEG 46:791 Poteidaia-Kassandreia) Her name derives from filos (=friendly) + ending -teia. Its full meaning is "Too friendly"

59. STEPHANOS (ÓôÝöá*ïò) m ancient Greek
An Epirotan. (IG II² 8545 attica). His name derives from greek noun óôÝöá*ïò (= wreath)

60. GLAUKETAS (ÃëáõêÝôáò) m ancient Greek
An Epirotan. (IG II² 8534 Attica) It derives from the greek adj. "Ãëáõêüò" (= brilliant) + ending -etas.

61. PARMENISKOS (Ðáñìå*ßóêïò) m ancient Greek
An Epirotan, son of Alexandros (Thess. Mnemeia 232,46). It means "the little Parmenon"

62. ZOPYROS (Æþðõñïò) m ancient Greek
A Molossian. (Olymos 54 Caria) It derives from the greek adj. Zopyros (=the one who is inflamed)

63. DAIPPOS (ÄÜéððïò) m ancient Greek
An Epirotan proxenos of the Oropos city, son of Nikanor (Epigr. tou Oropou 136 c. 240-180a) It derives from the greek adj. äÜéïò (=frightful) + úððïò (=horse). Its full meaning is "frightful horse".

64. DEINOMENES (Äåé*ïìÝ*çò) m ancient Greek
A Molossian. (Lindos II 2 99a.) It derives from the greek adj. Äåé*üò (=wild) + ìÝ*ïò (= power).

65. ALKEMACHOS (ÁëêÞìá÷ïò) m ancient Greek
An Epirotan, son of Haropos. He won in diaulon in Panhellenic games. (IG II² 2313 Attica 194/3) It derives from Alke (=strenght) + Mache (=war)

66. SAMIPPOS (ÓÜìéððïò) m ancient Greek
A Molossian (Att. — Athens: Akr. — med s IV a IG II² 3827) It derives from the greek adj. Óáìüò (= tall) + ßððïò (=horse), meaning "tall horse".

67. ANTANOR (Á*ôÜ*ùñ) m ancient Greek
A Chaonian Proxenos, son of Euthumides. (FD III 4:409 Delphi 325-275 bc — SIG(3) 379) It derives from the greek preposition anti (=equal to) + Aner (=man). It means "equal to man"

68. EFTHIMIDES (Åõèõìßäçò) m ancient Greek
A Chaonian proxenos. (FD III 4:409 Delphi proxenia Chaonian 325-275 bc — SIG(3) 379) It derives from the greek adj. Åýèõìïò (=cheerful) + the greek ending -ides.

69. NIKOLAOS (Íéêüëáïò) m ancient Greek
An Epirotan tragodos. (IG XI,2 108 Delos — 279 bc) It derives from *éêþ (=win) + ëáüò (=people). It means the "winner of people"

70. KALLIKRATES (ÊáëëéêñÜôçò) m ancient Greek
A Molossian (Aphrodisias 24 Caria). It derives from êÜëëïò (=nice, beauty, good) + êñáôïò (=law, rule). It means the "one who has good rule".

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Μυρτάλη (Myrtale) is a Greek name and means "something with a good smell", usually a flower or a perfume, from masc. Μύρτος (Myrtos) which is the Myrtle tree. From Μύρρα (Myrra) "smell" or the verb μυρίζω (Myrizo) which means "i smell".
Known Myrtale was Olympias, a princess of The Molossians, mother of the Great Alexander.She was orphaned early and was rasied in the palace of her uncle Arybbas, king of Epiros.
Also archaeological evidence (Eurydice Stele) which have shown that the Olympias father's correct name is Sirras (Greek) rather than Hirras.
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Aleksandar can mean something else. Part of the legend about his birth holds it that Olympia had a dream where her womb is stricken by a lightning. The literal translation of the name into Macedonian means: a cure given in a dream, made of the words Lek, San and Dar. This theory about the meaning of Alexander's name has been welcomed by several linguists i have spoken with, almost all of them agreeing on the notion that on the territory of Europe was present something called a "mother language". Many tribes across the continent shared the same words used to describe the most mundane objects, feelings and actions in the lives of people. The word for cure is "Lek." It is present in most Slavic languages. The root of the word "to give" is "Dar" and is found today in Italian, Spanish, Macedonian, Serbian, Croatian and other languages found on the European part of the Mediterra. The word for dream is "San" or in today's Macedonian "Son" is also, very logically, used to describe a common occurrence that happened to people regardless of their origin. The word for dream in Spanish today is Suenyo and something similar in Italian. Threfore, Aleksandar was given in a dream and in many respects he was a universal cure. I might be wrong, but that proves that you can't be completely right either. There are always two sides of your story.
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Aleksandar can mean something else. Part of the legend about his birth holds it that Olympia had a dream where her womb is stricken by a lightning. The literal translation of the name into Macedonian means: a cure given in a dream, made of the words Lek, San and Dar. This theory about the meaning of Alexander's name has been welcomed by several linguists i have spoken with, almost all of them agreeing on the notion that on the territory of Europe was present something called a "mother language". Many tribes across the continent shared the same words used to describe the most mundane objects, feelings and actions in the lives of people. The word for cure is "Lek." It is present in most Slavic languages. The root of the word "to give" is "Dar" and is found today in Italian, Spanish, Macedonian, Serbian, Croatian and other languages found on the European part of the Mediterra. The word for dream is "San" or in today's Macedonian "Son" is also, very logically, used to describe a common occurrence that happened to people regardless of their origin. The word for dream in Spanish today is Suenyo and something similar in Italian. Threfore, Aleksandar was given in a dream and in many respects he was a universal cure. I might be wrong, but that proves that you can't be completely right either. There are always two sides of your story.
Provide archaeological evidence of such name etymology if you wish to build your case. I suspect, however, that there is no such evidence to be found. I'd also be interested to know who the linguists are who 'welcome' your above theory.
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Aleksandar can mean something else. Part of the legend about his birth holds it that Olympia had a dream where her womb is stricken by a lightning. The literal translation of the name into Macedonian means: a cure given in a dream, made of the words Lek, San and Dar. This theory about the meaning of Alexander's name has been welcomed by several linguists i have spoken with, almost all of them agreeing on the notion that on the territory of Europe was present something called a "mother language". Many tribes across the continent shared the same words used to describe the most mundane objects, feelings and actions in the lives of people. The word for cure is "Lek." It is present in most Slavic languages. The root of the word "to give" is "Dar" and is found today in Italian, Spanish, Macedonian, Serbian, Croatian and other languages found on the European part of the Mediterra. The word for dream is "San" or in today's Macedonian "Son" is also, very logically, used to describe a common occurrence that happened to people regardless of their origin. The word for dream in Spanish today is Suenyo and something similar in Italian. Threfore, Aleksandar was given in a dream and in many respects he was a universal cure. I might be wrong, but that proves that you can't be completely right either. There are always two sides of your story.
Alexandros(as it was his name found in all epigraphs or ancient texts) is just a complex word that means the one who hold off the mans (Alexo+andros)
as the words that we still use with alexo:
alexo+keravnos=alexikeravno (lightning arrestor)
alexo+broxi =alexibroxio(umbrella)
alexo+ptosi =alexiptoto(parachute)
alexo+sfaira =alexisfairo(bulletproof)

Or the second synthetic of the name Alexandros -andros is used to a lot of other Greek names.

Anaxim-andros
Anax-andros
Arist-andros
Ev-andros
Igis-andros
Is-andros
Kass-andros
Kle-andros
Le-andros
Lis-andros
Men-andros
Nik-andros
Peis-andros
Peri-andros
Skam-andros
Tergi-andros
Tim-andros
Tiss-andros
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"Loud voices, cheers, and the whinnying of horses, which also seemed to be expressing their joy together with the people; I cannot even now so many years after forget the moment when someone ran to the cemetery which was located nearby, stood at his brothers tomb, and, with tears in his eyes, said :

Brother, sleep easily. Because our land, is at last Greek!!!!!!

Kon. Tsitseliki, 11 October 1912. Memories written for Kozanis liberation 11-10-1912,Kozanis. newspaper Voreios Hellas
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Aleksandar can mean something else. Part of the legend about his birth holds it that Olympia had a dream where her womb is stricken by a lightning. The literal translation of the name into Bulgarian means: a cure given in a dream, made of the words Lek, San and Dar. This theory about the meaning of Alexander's name has been welcomed by several linguists i have spoken with, almost all of them agreeing on the notion that on the territory of Europe was present something called a "mother language". Many tribes across the continent shared the same words used to describe the most mundane objects, feelings and actions in the lives of people. The word for cure is "Lek." It is present in most Slavic languages. The root of the word "to give" is "Dar" and is found today in Italian, Spanish, Bulgarian, Serbian, Croatian and other languages found on the European part of the Mediterra. The word for dream is "San" or in today's Bulgarian "Son" is also, very logically, used to describe a common occurrence that happened to people regardless of their origin. The word for dream in Spanish today is Suenyo and something similar in Italian. Threfore, Aleksandar was given in a dream and in many respects he was a universal cure. I might be wrong, but that proves that you can't be completely right either. There are always two sides of your story.
Is it a free day in the institution today? I see by your post how delusional you are. How the hell is Vardarsker anything to do with the Mediterranian?

Lets look at your theory DAR - LEK....Darlek....SAN....SON....Son of a Dalek. That looks about right for your intelectual capacity.

Do you really know what Alexandros means? It means: Saviour of the Hellenes from the thieving Bastard Slavs!!

Sorry to the moderators but idiots like him should be in a straight jacket
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Old 10-26-2008, 05:59 AM
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Aleksandar can mean something else. Part of the legend about his birth holds it that Olympia had a dream where her womb is stricken by a lightning. The literal translation of the name into Macedonian means: a cure given in a dream, made of the words Lek, San and Dar. This theory about the meaning of Alexander's name has been welcomed by several linguists i have spoken with, almost all of them agreeing on the notion that on the territory of Europe was present something called a "mother language". Many tribes across the continent shared the same words used to describe the most mundane objects, feelings and actions in the lives of people. The word for cure is "Lek." It is present in most Slavic languages. The root of the word "to give" is "Dar" and is found today in Italian, Spanish, Macedonian, Serbian, Croatian and other languages found on the European part of the Mediterra. The word for dream is "San" or in today's Macedonian "Son" is also, very logically, used to describe a common occurrence that happened to people regardless of their origin. The word for dream in Spanish today is Suenyo and something similar in Italian. Threfore, Aleksandar was given in a dream and in many respects he was a universal cure. I might be wrong, but that proves that you can't be completely right either. There are always two sides of your story.
Aleksandar can mean anything you want it to but Alexandros has its own meaning. Todays Macedonian has nothing to do with what you speak.

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kzk already provided greek names & words using alex- & -andros ...

Please ...bring the names of the scholrs that agree with you ...I'm all ears !!!
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The problem with your explanation,dear buden is that you are unaware of the fact that the name Alexandros had existed MUCH EARLIER than when Alexander I and Phillip of Macedon (let alone Alexander the great) lived. There already had been a Corinthian King by that name,( 6th century BC), as for the name itself it has been found for the first time in linear B tablets mentioning the goddess Hera in its femminin form (ALEXANDRA).

AND THAT,my dear friend,is where the explanations provided by your sources are terribly wrong linguistically. Do you know why? Because NOWHERE in LINEAR B tablets a syllable in ANY word ends with a consonant!
The correct form considering we know how LINEAR B words are pronounced is A-RE-KA-SA-DA-RA,meaning what the other guys already posted,as it is internatonally accepted among the linguistic circles.So tell your friends who desperately try to insinuate and link any slavic word with LINEAR B to ask any linguistic-historians and for their advice.

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I think our Fyromian friend invoked Linear B without to know what actually Linear B is:
http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/for...-thread-2.html
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