Koroebus: Early Dorians spoke «μακεδονιστί»

Originally Posted by kostas68

Some Athenian soldiers happened to hear this "kousiex' " and you can't imagine how funny sounded it to their ears,especially the pronouncation of "s" like the english "sh".From that day "kousiex" became his nickname.

From Plato/Socrates to your Athenean Soldiers Kosta I guess some things simply can't change in 2300 years !!!

In Protagoras (dialogue) 341c[1] of Plato, Prodicus labelled the Aeolic dialect as barbarian, while referring to Pittacus of Mytilene

“ He didn't know to distinguish the words correctly, being from Lesbos, and having been raised with a barbarian dialect ”

The Aeolic dialect might, in the time of Socrates and Plato, sound so strange to the Athenians, as to be termed, from an exclusive pride in the Attic literary style, barbaros

Originally Posted by Andrew

What can I say kzk ... if only we had more info about the background of the inscription ...if it was a n order for a feste then "bright cups" for the table looks good ...who knows ?

I found one photo that i havent seen before into the book that i took when i left the museum.
Einai ligo trani kai tha tanistei to post alla allios den fainetai..



Ntaxei to xetansa

Originally Posted by kzk842

I found one photo that i havent seen before into the book that i took when i left the museum.
Einai ligo trani kai tha tanistei to post alla allios den fainetai..

Den to ixera oti ti lete ki eseis afti ti lexi. Kateftheian ap' ta arhaia ellinika,tanyzomai=tentonomai,ekteinomai,p.h. otan kapoios hasmourietai kai tentonei ta heria tou leme oti aftos "tanizetai".
Btw,as mikrainoume ligo ti fotografia giati de fainetai tipota etsi pou einai:

Be blessed KZK !!!! Even the original inscription of these 2 words reveals a further information .....note the "R" instead of "P" ..it's not in Attic-Ionic alphabet !!!



In one of his stupid "arguments" Borza said "we must be carefull because there have been found graves in Thrace with Thracian names writen in Greek".

To see how "naif" can Borza be ... Thracian names in Ionic alphabet ...and we have here Greek words writen in a non Attic-Ionic Greek alphabet !!!

Originally Posted by kostas68

Den to ixera oti ti lete ki eseis afti ti lexi. Kateftheian ap' ta arhaia ellinika,tanyzomai=tentonomai,ekteinomai,p.h. otan kapoios hasmourietai kai tentonei ta heria tou leme oti aftos "tanizetai".
Btw,as mikrainoume ligo ti fotografia giati de fainetai tipota etsi pou einai:

xaxaxaxaxax We have it also "tànisè to" ...."to xetàn(t)ses ntip gia ntip" !!!

There is a mathematical term τανυστής : every linear operator that had the ability to "re-dimensionalize" (ξετανυστής ) vector spaces !!!

http://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%95%...84%CE%AE%CF%82

Kanena gomari den aksiothike akoma na metaphrasei to aggliko "tensor" sto elliniko wiki ws "tanystis" :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensor

In Kozanis area when we have to say that someone is arrogant we call it "einai tanistaras" = he make his self look bigger.
For example "ai re oi giouft' mas ginan ki tanstareoi".

The final proof of the intra-Greek allophonic situation between [β,γ,δ] and [φ,θ,χ] comes from the beautiful panhellenic word for "human" : Anthropos !!



So ... ἄνθρωπος [anthropos] from «άνδρός ὄψη» [andros opse] = "he who has the aspect of human" , just like the Muse Καλλιόπη [Kalliope] = "she who has a good aspect/face" or Κασσιόπη [Kassiope] from (s)Kandh- >> Kans >> Kass + ops = "she who has shining aspect/face" or Πέλοψ [Pelops] = "he who has dark face/aspect".

So meanwhile the genitive of the panhellenic word for "man" aner-andros has always and in all dialects and periods a «δ» it's most basic derivative has an unexplained «θ» (ἄνθρωπος).

So a piece of advise to the linguists all over the world ...if it ever turns out that the ancient Macedonians used to say andropos instead of anthropos (as they said dorax,Xandos instead of thorax and Xanthos)...stay calm ..they did so because they spoke a kind of greek which "remembered" that anthropos meant "andros opsi" !!

And to be fair ....the "unexplained" «θ» can be explained ...

andros+opsi >> androsopos

Now greek tends to debuccalize instervocalic "s" into "h" so >> androhopos

and it tends also to transfer the aspiration anteriorly so andhroopos

[dh] evolves in θ [th] and the "double oo" evolves in "long o" or "o-mega" ...so... BINGO !! ἄνθρωπος !!!

....isn't more easy to stick to andropos ??

and if all those processes seem "mambo jambo" the same transformations gave the greek word hieros ("holy") from PIE*iseros



1) debuccalization of intervocalic "s" : *iseros >> iheros
2) anterior transfer of the spiritus asper "h" : iheros >> hieros

I have one inscription that does use Andropo- instead of Anthropo- :clap2:

I dunno about Macedonians, but in Dodoni, Epirus some man decided to write Andropodixato instead of Anthropodixato.

http://epigraphy.packhum.org/inscrip...4&subregion=10

I'm not quite sure though on this one.

Originally Posted by Flipper

I have one inscription that does use Andropo- instead of Anthropo- :clap2:

I dunno about Macedonians, but in Dodoni, Epirus some man decided to write Andropodixato instead of Anthropodixato.

http://epigraphy.packhum.org/inscrip...4&subregion=10

I'm not quite sure though on this one.

Good one Flipper !!!

I know also that in the greek colony of Aspendos in Pamphylia (note -ndos instead of -nthos) they used to say antropos (ἄντρωπος).

Ok I searched the verb ανδραποδίζω = "make a free man ανδράποδον= slave"

Before we can celebrate...
How is andropodixato used in this content. Is it Anthropos + deiknnymi? It is with I instead of ei.