Albanian language

[Ehetlaios]

Originally Posted by Ehetlaios

The twin headed eagle is actually a jewish symbol and from them the Byzantines took it.

The jews did not have a civilization of their own and everything they show as "culture" is stolen, so the twin headed eagle is from some other civilization.

I read about the matter not too long ago but I do not remember exactly, I'll check the article tonight and post again tomorrow.

Earlier, Ptolemy wrote that the twin-geaded eagle was used by the Sumerians. It was also used by the Hittites and it also appears on Chinese things (such as swords).

The jews were slaves to some big mesopotamian kingdom which used it, that is why they used it too.

A twin headed eagle from the ancient hellenic culture was never found, only two eagles as a sign of Zeus.

[Orphic_Hymn]

Originally Posted by Hermes

I didnt said that there was nothing there before Costandin.The East Roman Empire has its origins when Costandin went to put there his capital,so if there has been the Bizant Empire than, it was bcz that Costandin begined it.About what u say of the colonists of Megara,i dont know but i am ok with u, it's not that the problem.

Actually the so-called "Eastern Roman Empire" aka Byzantium was formed sometime during the reign of Dioklis in the late 200's, when he separated the empire into Eastern and Western ..

Anyway , here i give my opinions, and i thing , its good in a point of view having opposition. About your insults, i can reply those very well , but u must know i cant do it about ass, as Romans said : ''it was a greek habit''(vizzio greco).

The Romans would have never said "vizzio" because that is the Italian form of the word and thus non-existant in their time, IF they ever used the phrase (which I highly doubt since unlike the Hellenes they accepted homosexuality as a natural act) they would have said "vitium" if you're interested there is a topic on the issue.

[Hermes]

Jewish took it from Hitites, they have always been closed for some peroids.
About Zeus, its normal.
I think Bizantines had that, but not from jewish, it had exist in the East.It hasnt been a case i think.
Diokles(Roman imperator) was Illyrian too.He divided the empire but the real great dividing was made by Teodos.Still to him, other imperators governed the empire with others , making administration borders in many diferent ways.

[Flipper]

Since, this subject is fresh I've been looking around about the albanian language. There are some things being mentioned a lot by linguists:

a) Some believe it has a connection with Illyrian.
b) Some refer to it as a Greco-Italic Language
c) It has many Greek borowings (not the oposite as some might claim)
d) There are only some words shared with Illyrian.
e) There is a lack of Proto-Albanian place names in Illyria.

Any comments?

[Orphic_Hymn]

Originally Posted by Flipper

c) It has many Greek borowings (not the oposite as some might claim)

How many of these words are loans that can be linked to ancients and thus passed into their language from Illyrians and how many latter Byzantine loans?

[Flipper]

Originally Posted by Orphic_Hymn

How many of these words are loans that can be linked to ancients and thus passed into their language from Illyrians and how many latter Byzantine loans?

I do not have a complete list. However, on books I have on the western greek (Doric) language some words are mentioned to have been boroughed in the albanian language. To make it more clear: Doric words were adopted in Albanian.

[Orphic_Hymn]

I've heard this but these words as I recall are limited (I've only managed to find notes on 4 of an unknown total) as presented by E. Cabej in the 7th International Congress of Onomastic Sciences. The majority of words I've seen are all of the later form of Hellenic.

[Teukros]

Really want to see the albanian explanation of the ancient Greek and Egyptians gods

[olvios]

On the Albanian Claim that they have Illyrian names today

They were added during the communist era and thats why they are unacceptable by historians.

On the Albanian Claim that they have Illyrian names today

ISBN 960-210-279-9 Miranda Vickers, The Albanians Chapter 9. "Albania Isolates itself" page 256 In page 271 it is stated

From time to time the state gave out lists with pagan ,supposed Illyrian or newly constructed names that would be proper for the new generation of revolutionaries.(see also Also Logoreci "the Albanians" page 157.

[masolord]

Originally Posted by PAO123

Can anyone prove to me that the Albanian language is not similar with Illirian since I am having an argument with an Albanian about it. Thanks

they are not illirians, they are trying to proof something that they are not, just like us.they are clowns