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Old 05-16-2008, 09:22 AM
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In Greek Kozani is pronounced with a straight 'z'. Do you mean a more 'tz' sound, as in Kocani?
No, like the first sound of the French "je tem!"
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The sound of the ž in the Slavic name Kožani is like s in treasure.
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The sound of the ž in the Slavic name Kožani is like s in treasure.
exactly
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Old 05-16-2008, 01:57 PM
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Πολύ ωραία,τώρα είμαστε 4 στο φόρουμ,αν κι εσύ πρέπει να είσαι...εκ μεταγραφής Σερραίος,εννοώ ότι η Πετρούσα,αν δεν κάνω λάθος είναι στο νομό Δράμας,μάλλον η μάνα σου πρέπει να είναι Σερραία,ε?Τώρα, απ'ότι κατάλαβα,δεν πρέπει να μένεις στις Σέρρες
kai ego Serraios ime apo kerkini meria
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Old 05-17-2008, 04:56 AM
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Vila is a fork in the Kozanitiki dialect. And I think hliari is a spoon but I am not totally sure of this. My father in law used these words sometimes. He also used misha for hallway and pishkiri for hand towel. On the other hand familia was used for family, instead of oikogeneia and post was used for the post office instead of tachydromeio.

"Ancient Macedonian language has been recognised as a Greek dialect.

Specifically, the ISO XMK has the following specification:

Language Name: Ancient Macedonian
Alternate Name(s): Macedonian
Once Spoken in: Greece F.Y.R.O.M
Language Code: xmk (Former code: XMK )
Status: Extinct
Family: Indo-European
Subgroup: Macedonian
Subgrouping Code: Indoeuropean Greek Branch

Brief Description: The ancient language of the Macedonian kingdom in N. Greece and modern Macedonia during the later 1st millennium BC. Survived until the early 1st millennium AD. NOT to be confused with the modern Macedonian language, which is a close relative of the Slavic Bulgarian."
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exactly
In Greek though Kozani is pronounced KO - ZA - NI - the Z being pronounced as in zebra.
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For sure not Albanian !
Seems Vlach langauge .
I posted this on another thread. 1904 census for Kozani which was still under the control of the Ottoman Empire.

Population Greek 12.000 Vlach 300

It doesn't make sense that Vlach words would be part of the Kozanitiki dialect given the above numbers.

We know that the original inhabitants of Kozani came to the area (mountain plateau) from the plains of Macedonia in order to avoid the Turks - Aghios Dimitrios church was then a monastery and the whole area was heavily forested. We also know that new settlers came from the Epirus area a few years later.

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χλιάρʼ (του) : α. το κουτάλι, β. χλιαρά (η) = η κουταλιά, γ. χλιάρα (η) = 1. η κουτάλα σερβιρίσματος, 2. υβρ. η γλωσσού (ιδίως γυναίκα), δ. χλιαράκʼ (του) = το κουταλάκι, ε. Προέλευση : από το αρχαίο κοχλίας, πηγή : ΑΠΘ.

μισιά (η) : α. ο κεντρικός χώρος ενός σπιτιού, το χολ, β. ενδιάμεσος χώρος μεταξύ των οντάδων.


The following link has all the Kozanitiki words and their meaning and origin.

http://www.giapraki.com/e107_plugins...p?content.1887

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kai ego Serraios ime apo kerkini meria
There are some awsome landscapes around Kerkini lake.Where are you exactly from?
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There are some awsome landscapes around Kerkini lake.Where are you exactly from?
well originally im from Parapotamos but our house is in Rodopoly if you even know where those are you could walk to Belles its close
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well originally im from Parapotamos but our house is in Rodopoly if you even know where those are you could walk to Belles its close
Don't worry,i know these vilages very well.We have 196 villages in Serres prefecture but i know were is located everyone.When i was soldier,a surgeant from Ano Poroia named Nanos heard that i am from Serres region and asked me the name of my village.When i answered<Emmanouil Papas> he said?<Where is this village?I hear this name for first time!>
I have been in Rodopoli and Parapotamos as well,15-16 years ago.In Rodopoli i stayed around 3-4 weeks.Nice village,i liked it.It's the economical center of the region.Parapotamos,if i remember well is a small village with 100-150 inhabitants.
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