Horrocks on the Macedonian language

[Andrew]

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Does anyone have any quotes of this book about the Macedonian language ???


Horrocks is well known scholar of the ancient greek language ...and from the little phrase here he makes clear something that I have also thought long ago:

What Hesykhius labels "macedonian" may be not "originally macedonian" , but "Macedonian" as a man of his time (5th century AD) understood Macedonia. This means that many of the words he presents could have never been used by the ancient Macedonians , but were used by non-greeks (Paeonians , Thracians) who ended inhabiting in what was "expanded macedonia".

It is a fair hypothesis that shouldn't be neglected. If it's true then the ancient Macedonian idiom free of these "erroneusly "Macedonian" non greek terms" goes even closer to the other ancient greek dialects !!!

It is not Macedonian fault if Hesykhius labeled as "Macedonian" Paeonian and other non-greek terms !!

[chicagogeorge]

Is this another edition of this book? I can't understand the language!http://books.google.com/books?q=edit...ions_r&cad=1_2


Here is the book in limited preview

http://books.google.com/books?id=mhV...d=1_2#PPA11,M1

[Andrew]

I don't know George ...I just found out that the book is translated in greek as you can see here:

http://www.papasotiriou.gr/product.g...=773848&deid=0

Έχει κανείς το βιβλίο του G. Horrocks «Ελληνικά: η ιστορία της γλώσσας και των ομιλητών της» ???

Όποιος το έχει μπορεί να μας πει τι λέει ο Horrocks για την αρχαία Μακεδονική και την περίπτωση «λανθασμένης ενσωμάτωσης» Παιονικών όρων ως «Μακεδονικών» από τους «ύστερους λεξικογράφους» σαν τον Ησύχιο (5ος μ.Χ. αι.) ??

[chicagogeorge]

Here are the snippets from the book.

[Andrew]

If you think of it it's a highly probable case. Consider that :

1) I have counted in the glossary samples the "unorthodoxies" of Macedonian and Laconian Doric and they are in a ratio around 32:9 in favour of the Macedonian.

2) Since the Dorians have migrated southwards by the Phrygians this means that they were minimally influenced by them. Under contrarly , the Macedonians have cohabited with the Phrygians from ca. 1200 BC to ca. 850 BC , that is for about the same time that modern greeks were under the Turks. How many words have we borrowed from the Turks ?

3) The "Macedonian" glossary contains:
---i) non-greek terms that the Macedonians have borrowed from the Phrygian , Paeonians , Illyrians and Thracians.
...ii) non-greek terms that the macedonians HAVE NEVER borrowed by Paeonians , Thracians and Illyrians , but -as Horrocks considers- were later labeled as "Macedonian" by the later lexicographers.

4) Is it pure luck that the Paeonian language is the less attested i nthe Balkans ?? We have around 20 words for Thracian and the same goes for Illyrian. In the same time , the Paeonian words are les than 10 !!! This is highly suggestive about the fact that Paeonian terms have been labeled as Macedonian.

5) The Pella curse tablet is definitely dialectical (τᾶν ἄλλαν πᾶσαν and ὄποκα instead of τῶν ἄλλων πασῶν and ὄποτε) , but has none of the lexicographical "unorthodoxies". The name Θέτιμα and not Δέτιμα etc.

6) The pierian toponym (and so originally macedonian) Leibethron has a "standard" greek sound θ/[th] and not δ/[d] (Leibedron) as the "glossary]suggests.

All this highly indicates that the Macedonian glossary of Heskhius is abnormaly inflated with "unorthological" terms.

If we could (if ever will) purify the Macedonian language from real (indeed borrowed) and unreal (Horrocks' suggestion) balkan adstrata , then the 32:9 ratio mentioned above moves versus 1:1 levels and that means that it becomes a "perfectly Doric greek" !!!