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Old 09-11-2008, 12:19 PM
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Default Inscription from Chalkidiki in archaic fashion (1st BC)

Shows that archaic Greek language was spoken at Kalindoia in the first century BC.

http://epigraphy.packhum.org/inscrip...4&subregion=11

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[εἰ γνῶναι ποθέε]ι̣ς̣ τὸ ἐμὸν γένος, ἅδε [πέτρα σοι]

[λέξει, ὅστις] κεῖμαι τᾷδε λιπὼν βίοτον.

[δωδεκέτης ἔ]θανον, βαίνω δ ὑπὸ τύμβον ἄφη̣[μος]

[ἐνδόξου π]ά̣ππου τἀτὸ λαχὸν ὄνομα·
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[κέκλητ οὖν κ]ἀ̣κ̣εῖνος Ἀριστομένοιο Φιλώτας,

ὃς πάτραι γνώμα̣ν ἔσχεν ἰσουράνιον·

δὴ τοῦ χαλκείαν μὲν ἀνέστασαν πολιᾶται

ἰκόναν εἰς μνάμναν {⁶μνάμαν}⁶, βάντες ἐν εὐνομίαι·

ἑζόμενος γὰ̣ρ̣ ἔχει χ̣έρα̣ γούνατι, τὰ δέ τευ̣ ἄλλα
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δάμου καὶ βουλᾶ̣ς τόνδε κρατεῖ στέφανον·

[κα]ρύσσει δ ἀρετὰν δαῒ ἁ σταδ̣ι[αί]α̣ πολύγραπτος

στάλα {ι} καὶ πύ̣ρ̣γων ὡς ἐφάνη π̣ρ̣όμα̣χος.

τοῦ δ αὐτοῦ τόδε σᾶμα καὶ ἡρώων ἀνάθημά

ἐστι καὶ ἁ σπλάγχνων ξ̣ύν[θ]ε̣τος εὐγένεα.
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τρισσὰ̣ς δ ἐν ζωοῖσιν ἐγὼ λίπω ξυνομαίμους,

μουσογράφους φοιτῶν ἀρτ̣ιμαθεῖς σελίδ<α>ς

καὶ ζω̣ὸν μάτηρ ἔτι νήπι̣[ο]ν ὄντα με ἔλειπε,

[ἇ]ς̣ τύμβωι κρυφθεὶς κεῖμαι ὁμοῦ φθίμενος.

[δ]ακρύει δὲ τάφος τὸν ἐμὸν μόρον, ὡς ταχὺς Ἅ̣δαν
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ἦλθον ἀπὸ προγόνων δώματα Φερσεφόνη[ς].
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[εἰ γνῶναι ποθέε]ι̣ς̣ τὸ ἐμὸν γένος, ἅδε [πέτρα σοι]
Αν θες να μάθεις το γένος μου, γλυκιά πέτρα εσυ

[λέξει, ὅστις] κεῖμαι τᾷδε λιπὼν βίοτον.
Λέγω εγώ ο όποιος κείτομαι σε αυτό λιγδερό βιο.

[δωδεκέτης ἔ]θανον, βαίνω δ ὑπὸ τύμβον ἄφη̣[μος]
Δωδεκάχρονος συνήθης, πάω κάτω από τον τύμβο άσημος

[ἐνδόξου π]ά̣ππου τἀτὸ λαχὸν ὄνομα·
Ενδόξου παππού τυγχάνω το όνομα

[κέκλητ οὖν κ]ἀ̣κ̣εῖνος Ἀριστομένοιο Φιλώτας,
Ονομάζομαι πράγματι σαν και εκείνος Αριστομένης Φιλώτας

ὃς πάτραι γνώμα̣ν ἔσχεν ἰσουράνιον·
Η δική του πατρίδα γνώρισμα είχε το επουράνιο

δὴ τοῦ χαλκείαν μὲν ἀνέστασαν πολιᾶται
Η τέχνη του χαλκιά από άστεγο τον έκανε πολίτη

Τελικά έπρεπε να ακολουθήσω θεωρητική κατεύθυνση.
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Δωδεκάχρονος συνήθης, πάω κάτω από τον τύμβο άσημος
δωδεκάχρονος πέθανα ...
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δωδεκάχρονος πέθανα ...
Σωστός...αυτό σκέφτηκα και εγώ αλλά υπέθεσα πως βγαίνει απο το έθος = συνήθης,σε συνδυασμό με το άφημος που γράφει στο τέλος της πρότασης.
Αλλά μάλλον έχεις δίκιο...
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Brother, sleep easily. Because our land, is at last Greek!!!!!!

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KZK842 έχεις την αγαπημένη μου υπογραφή από όλο το FORUM ...11 Οκτωβρίου είναι τα γενέθλιά μου ....
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Και της Κοζάνης επίσης,εγώ πάλι λίγο πριν, στις 5 Οκτωβρίου.
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Brother, sleep easily. Because our land, is at last Greek!!!!!!

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[λέξει, ὅστις
κεῖμαι τᾷδε λιπὼν βίοτον.
Λέγω εγώ ο όποιος κείτομαι σε αυτό λιγδερό βιο.
Nομίζω το σωστό είναι:Λέγω εγώ ο όποιος κείτομαι εδώ αφού έφυγα απ'τη ζωή.
Το λιπών πρέπει να είναι μετοχή β' αορίστου του λείπω=εγκαταλείπω,αφήνω.
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Και της Κοζάνης επίσης,εγώ πάλι λίγο πριν, στις 5 Οκτωβρίου.
Άρα μακεδονιστί και οι δύο γεννηθήκαμε το μήνα Δίο !!! xaxaxaxaxaxaxa
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KZK842 έχεις την αγαπημένη μου υπογραφή από όλο το FORUM ...11 Οκτωβρίου είναι τα γενέθλιά μου ....
hehe October 7th here
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hehe October 7th here
wow were becoming many the born in the Dios month
xaxaxaxaxax!!!!!
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