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Old 07-19-2008, 07:08 AM
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The Scopians will claim that all these Bulgarians were actually ethnic <Macedonians> .I read recently in a post of a Scopian in topix.com the laughable claim that <there were no civilian Bulgarians (outside of Bulgarian government officials) living in Macedonia in 1913. The mentioned Bulgarian civilians were Macedonians who were either parishioners of the exarchate Church or who did not speak Greek. Anyone who could not speak Greek or Turkish was assumed to be Bulgarian> !It doesn't matter that all these people identified themselves as Bulgarians and fought for Bulgaria,since Risto Stevof says they weren't Bulgarians but <Makedontsi> he is right.
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The fact that fyromians celebrate Iliden which was from Bulgarians, and at the same time deny that they are Bulgarians, is another prove for they mental instability.
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Old 07-22-2008, 05:31 AM
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THE BATTLE FOR GREECE
by Times, Monday, Nov. 17, 1947

Last week President Truman reported to Congress on the progress of "Assistance to Greece and Turkey." The report's optimistic conclusion: "All of the necessary elements for Greek recovery . . . can begin to be operative once internal order is established. . . ." But other reports from Greece indicate that economic reconstruction must follow, not precede, the establishment of law & order. TIME Correspondent Robert Low cabled from Athens last week:

The $300 million American aid-to-Greece program is failing. If you sit around Athens, close your eyes to everything but the abundant food in de luxe restaurants, watch new American cars roll down the streets, look into shop windows filled with American canned goods, Italian woolens and Swiss watches, you can pretend it is not failing. But once you get outside Athens, you realize that the situation is the worst it has been since October 1944 when the Germans left. The Greek Government, the high command, the Army and the people are carrying out a sort of mass psychological "sitdown strike"; the Communist-led guerrillas are not in the grip of this self-induced inertia.

"Where Is It?" Many Greeks, ready to fight, wonder why they do not get the U.S. help they have been promised. I visited a village in Thrace where, the night before, guerrillas had carried out a raid, burning four houses and abducting three men and a woman, plus a good part of the village's winter food supply. There I was asked: "Where is this American aid? We heard a lot about it for months but we haven't seen any of it yet. The Communists always told us it wouldn't come. We didn't believe thembut where is it? If the Americans can't help us, who can?"

Today most farmers are afraid to venture into their fields. The food situation is bad now, but it will be far worse next spring. I flew hundreds of miles over Macedonia and saw the fields of perhaps one farm in ten being plowed for winter wheat planting. And the usual herds of goats and sheep were missing from the scrub-covered hills.

Balance Sheet. Two reports, issued the same day last week, show how fast guerrilla destruction is outracing U.S. reconstruction. One was a program report from AMAG (American Mission to Aid Greece). The other was a report from the Greek III Army Corps, tabulating guerrilla destruction during October in its area in northwestern Greece (roughly one-third of guerrilla-infested territory in Greece).

The AMAG report showed that five airfields were being "winterized," work had started on repairs to three stretches of highway, repairs had begun on port installations in Piraeus and Salonika, and work would soon begin on clearing the Corinth Canal (blocked by German demolitions since 1944).
The III Corps reported that in its area 83 guerrilla attacks were carried out on towns and villages, 218 houses, shops, schools and public utilities buildings were burned to the ground, 26 railway bridges were blown up, 8 road bridges destroyed, 11 locomotives and trains mined and destroyed, 193 villages looted, 6,000 animals stolen and several hundred tons of food stores plundered.


Perhaps the worst problem is the 300,000 refugees from guerrilla country. These peasants know that the Government has started the forced evacuation of a quarter-million civilians from the countryside because the Army cannot defend them, and carry out an offensive at the same time. And they wonder how they are going to live this winter crowded into mud huts, shanties and abandoned buildings on Government relief, which will provide them with less than a pound of bread and about 15 in cash a day. The huts in which they live, unlike the airfields, are not "winterized."

"Like Flies." In Salonika a top police officer told me: "If there has ever been a fertile breeding ground for Communism, it's among these refugees. Communist agents are swarming over them like flies and I don't know what we're going to use for DDT. If we can't feed them, house them, or give them any real hope, all they are going to have to live on this winter is Communist propaganda."

To save face, Greeks do not like to admit how badly off they are. The young prefect of a district described to me how his town was virtually encircled, how its garrison was outnumbered, how nearby villages were raided nightly, how he was at a total loss to feed and house all the thousands of refugees who had flocked in to the relative safety of the town. He painted a hopeless picture. Finally a British correspondent with me commented that, judging by the way the prefect talked, the guerrillas were winning the battle in this area.


"Aha," said the young Greek prefect quite seriously, "another Communist journalist."


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As the Twig Is Bent
by Times, Monday, Mar. 15, 1948

Give us the child for eight years, and it will be a Bolshevist forever.
Lenin

In the bleak city hall of Kozane, a northern Greek mountain town, 13 peasants stood before a U. N. field team. The peasants had been hostages of General Markos Vafiades' Communist Andartes. In the mixed Greek-Slav-Albanian dialect of the Macedonian border people, they haltingly told their story.

Black-shawled Athena Papalexiou, 50, spoke first. "All children between 3 and 14 are being registered by the Andartes," she said. The rebels had told the parents that the children would be sent to good homes in the Slav "democracies." "Would the children come back again?" asked'an investigator. "It was forbidden to discuss the matter," replied Athena.

John Natsis and Zagarus Voiliotis had been billeted with a widower in Kranies, in the rebel-controlled northwest corner of Greece. They had watched the widower give the names and ages of his three children to a rebel officer and a clerk. "They told him he must be glad that his children would be taken away to the safety of other countries," said the two peasants. "They said soon the Monarcho-Fascists would bomb Kranies, and in Rumania his children would receive a good education."

When Athens newspapers blared forth the story of "mass kidnaping," some foreigners were skeptical, at first. But a sensitive Greek nerve was touched. Greeks never forget that for centuries the armies and government of their conquerors, the Turks, had been manned by children of Christian families, caught young and trained for their jobs.

Were Greeks to be ruled again by their own children, kidnaped and alienated? Confirmation came from the rebels themselves. The Communist radio in northern Greece bluntly announced that 12,000 Greek children had been "recruited for educational purposes." Markos agents were already negotiating with Balkan members of the Cominform, including Rumania, Bulgaria and Yugoslavia, to provide homes for the recruits.*

Said an Athens spokesman: the plan "was intended to destroy Greece by destroying Greece's futureher youth." The Greek government hurried off a sharp note to the U.N. Balkan committee in Salonika, charging the Reds with "genocide," and asked for immediate action. Two committees were appointed and the issue labeled "top priority."

As the U.N. committee waited for the report of its investigators, the Markos radio went on the air again. From 69 villages of "free Greece," a broadcast reported, 4,884 children had already been transported across the frontier into Albania, Yugoslavia and Bulgaria "for maintenance and education."

* Historian Arnold J. Toynbee points out that the Turks transferred to human administration a great invention of their Caspian steppe home land: the use of domestic animals to control other animals. As they had trained dogs to watch their herds, "the Ottoman Padishahs maintained their empire by training slaves as human auxil iaries 'to assist them in keeping order among their 'human cattle.' " The most promising of the children were taken into the court as pages, oth ers were farmed out temporarily as slaves. In struction in the Mohammedan faith, hard labor, savage punishment, meticulous education and an unceasing appeal to ambition developed a gov erning and military class of "human watchdogs" that kept the Ottoman power flourishing through four centuries (1371-1774).


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Innocents' Day

by TIMES, Monday, Jan. 09, 1950

Peace had come to battered, impoverished Greece; the Communist guerrillas had been driven out, perhaps for good. But last week, on Innocents' Day (the Church calendar's anniversary of Herod's Slaughter of the Innocents in Judea), Greece had a day of mourningfor 28,000 children abducted by the bandits and now living on foreign, Communist soil.

A two-gun salute from Mount Lycabettus woke Athenians at dawn. Church bells tolled and flags drooped at half-mast. Newspapers appeared with black-framed front pages. Places of amusement were closed all day, and for half an hour all traffic stopped, streets emptied, doors were closed and blinds drawn.

Queens Do Not Beg. Earnest young Queen Frederika, mother of three, broadcast a poignant message from the royal palace. She begged for the return of the 28,000 children living in exile "as a motherbecause queens are not supposed to beg." Added Frederika: "The civilized world has remained silent too long."

The civilized world had made some well-meaning but ineffective protests. UNSCOB (the U.N.'s Special Committee on the Balkans) had verified the mass deportation of Greek children. The U.N. General Assembly had called on Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, and Rumania for the return of the children. These governments had finally agreed to return any children called for by petition of their parents. Up to last week the Greek Red Cross had forwarded 8,000 petitions, but not one child had been sent back.

Not Even Goodbye. In the palace with Frederika was a group of black-clad peasant women huddled at her side. Kaliroe Gouloumi, from Gorgopotamos, in Epirus, remembered how the Communists took her children:
"They were in our village for a year. First they took our animals, then our food, then our children. I had three."

Kaliroe wiped her eyes with her black shawl.
"They did not even let me say goodbye. They said they were no longer my children but their children."

Said Kleoniki Kiprou from Monopilo Kastoria:
"First they hanged the priest, then they cut off his mother's hands, and then they ordered us to follow them. What could we do?"

In Albania her eight-year-old girl and five-year-old boy were taken from her and a rifle was thrust into her hands. Tapping the weapon, the rebel capetdnias said:
"This is your husband, this your child."


Kleoniki was forced into the battle of Vitsi. She deserted and got back to her villagewithout her children. In Fourka Konitsa, the villagers learned in advance of the guerrillas' abduction plans.


They hid the children in ditches. The guerrillas, frustrated, took Sofia Makri and 20 other mothers to the mountains and tortured them. Said Sofia last week:
"They hung us from pine trees. They burned our feet with coals. They beat us. When we fainted they revived us with cold water from the spring. Fourteen of us died up there but we did not tell. When the Greek army entered our village they found the dead living, for out of the earth came our children."

There is no evidence that the Greek children living in Communist countries are physically abused. International Red Cross investigators have seen some of the children and reported that they are well fed. They are being schooled as young Communists and they are expected to feel and show enthusiasm.

Said a U.N. delegate in despair:
"In ten years there will be no abducted Greek children; they will have been absorbed."
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Old 07-22-2008, 06:21 AM
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Akritas VERY nice!
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Great find Akritas well done....
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1903, December 6th
Sarafoff...a Bulgarian officer











August 22, 1903, Saturday
THE MASSACRE AT KRUSHEVO

Bulgarian bands hoisting their flag over a Greek house!!!

..........When the Bulgarian bands entered Krushevo they occupied the Greek quarter, hoisting their flag over a Greek house............


............Three Hundred Bulgarians Slain, Besides Innocent Greeks and Vlachs -- 8,000 People Starving..............



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Time Magazine, Apr. 21, 1961
GREECE'S STEADY MAN


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Article on Constantine Karamanlis, uncle of the current prime minister.

"A democrat from the land where democracy was born and the word coined, Premier Constantine Karamanlis of Greece arrives in Washington this week for talks with President Kennedy.
.......he is the son of a schoolteacher from Macedonia........"
Time Magazine, May. 11, 1959
THE GHOST OF GREECE

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"A century after the great Atheno-Peloponnesian War (431 B.C. to 404 B.C.) all but destroyed the city-state, Macedonia's Alexander steered HELENISM off on another tack. Under the tutelage of Aristotle, he envisioned the brotherhood of man in a single universal state to which, in Toynbee's view, the EARLIER HELLENES had been so suicidally blind. The Hellenic world continued to writhe in violent separatist agonies until Rome's Augustan peace was imposed upon it in 31 B.C."

Time Magazine, Sep. 01, 1958
WHERE ALEXANDER BEGAN


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"In ancient Macedonia, the boisterous city of Pella was a pulsing magnet for talent from ALL OVER GREECE. Euripides went there to write and die; top artists and scholars abounded. King Philip II was a backwoods baron, but in Pella he could send his son to the finest of tutors, Aristotle himself. Out of Pella one spring day in 334 B.C. rode Aristotle's finished pupilAlexander the Great, 22, the tough intellectual whose armies HELLENISED most of the known world."
Time Magazine, Aug. 20, 1956
CRADLE OF HISTORY


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"PHILIP of Macedon conquered the Greek city-statesSparta, Athens, Thebes; his son Alexander LED THE GREEK phalanx into India in quest of homonoia, the brotherhood of man. At 32 Alexander died of malaria dreaming of fresh worlds to conquer...."
Time Magazine, Mar. 05, 1956
I STAND ALONE


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"For six weeks six-footer Karamanlis had tramped and traveled from snow-choked passes in MACEDONIA to sun-washed villages in the Peloponnesus to defend his pro-Western policy against the coalition formed against him by three disgruntled ex-Premiers in league with the remnant of the outlawed Communist Party.....Constantine Karamanlis (now Premier in his own right for the first time) is not a member of a wealthy Athenian family but the son of a MACEDONIAN schoolteacher, with the rough tongue and traces of the rough manners of the north."
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What was going on? The Greek Governor General of Macedonia [USE OF TERM MACEDONIA BY THE GREEK STATE PRIOR TO 1989 - ONE MORE LIE FROM FYROM EXPOSED] said that no refugees were streaming into Yugoslavia, charged that Slav terrorists were raiding Greek villages. From Rome the Chicago Daily Newss Balkan-wise Leigh White cabled: Marshal Tito had apparently launched his long-planned drive to expand federal Yugoslavia at the expense of Greek Macedonia. From Athens the New York Timess European Chief Cyrus Sulzberger reported: There is a pattern behind these events linked to the politically homogeneous Governments of Greeces three northern neighbors [Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, Albania], who are all ideologically tied to the Soviet Union. Was Russia, through her Balkan satellites, resuming a historic push toward a warm-water port on the Aegean Sea?
Monday, Jul. 23, 1945
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...803589,00.html

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During the Greek civil war (1946-49). when Communists burned, looted and terrorized in northern Greece, the Reds kidnaped some 40,000 Greeks and carried them off to the satellite countries. The prisoners are now beginning to come back. The move began as a trickle from Yugoslavia (now Greeces ally), then more came from Hungary, Rumania, Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria. By last week the number of refugees repatriated by the Communists had reached 3,600.
Time, Monday, Feb. 28, 1955
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...861218,00.html

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In Salonika last week, the huge concert studio of Radio Macedonia had been turned into a makeshift courtroom. [USE OF TERM MACEDONIA BY THE GREEK STATE PRIOR TO 1989 - ONE MORE LIE FROM FYROM EXPOSED]
Monday, Mar. 22, 1948
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...804479,00.html

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The Russian-controlled Sofia radio, meanwhile, broadcast an appeal to ELAS to try its hostages as war criminals, enemies of the people of Athens. It also launched a drive for an autonomous Macedonia (which might include Greeces No. 2 port of Salonika), with a capital at Skopljewhich is in Yugoslavia. [ANY COMMENT FROM THE GREEK COMMUNIST PARTY KKE??]
Monday, Jan. 29, 1945
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...933966,00.html

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Partitioning of Greece is foreshadowed by the deportation of thousands of Greeks from Thrace and Macedonia, by an influx of Bulgarians to occupy the abandoned homes and farms.
Monday, Nov. 24, 1941
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...801287,00.html

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In Geneva, Switzerland, the World Committee of the Y. M. C. A. met and figured up the value of its properties$193,236,000. To the National Council in the U. S. it reported that of these holdings $154,542,000 were in this country. In 52 countries served by the Y. M. C. A., more than 7,000 officers are employed; in the U. S. alone more than 5,000. Coincident with this report was the arrival in the U. S. of Gennadios, Greek Orthodox Metropolitan of Thessalonica and Archbishop of Macedonia[USE OF TERM MACEDONIA BY THE GREEK STATE PRIOR TO 1989 - ONE MORE LIE FROM FYROM EXPOSED], for an inspection of Y. M. C. A. activities here.
Monday, Apr. 05, 1926
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...751418,00.html

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The Greek Government crisis was weathered.

Out walked Premier Papanastasiou (TIME, July 28) and in trotted Premier Sofoulis, ex-Governor of Macedonia, followed by five staunch supporters:
Monday, Aug. 04, 1924
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...718771,00.html
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