Henry Kissenger and 'that' quote

[effie]

If you visit Turkish travel sites you will see that they advertise Byzantine and Minor Asia historical sites as their own. No reference to Greece.

Kissinger made a speech about 20 years or so ago.

He advised that, because Greeks cannot be controlled, their culture, history, language, etc. be destroyed.

This is what has been happening for the last 20 years. We are being attacked on all sides.

It is even being said that we are of African descent............... I'm fair haired and have green eyes, my husband is blonde and has ice blue eyes.

Yes, definitely from Africa.

Effie

[Truth Bearer]

The kissinger comment has not be proven as 1 person claimed to have heard it on the radio whole he was in germany........Utter rubbish if you ask me.

[akritas_gs]

Why re, why not diladi ?

You know Kissinger personally ? I mean why is it utter bullsht to you when you have not got a clue what kind of man Kissinger is ? NO offence dld alla giati na min einai ali8eia ? One man's word is enough for me. Why would that man lie anyway ? Please find out a lil bit more about Kissinger's character, work and then you will think otherwise.

[akritas_gs]

There have been those who've questioned the veracity of this statement. To such people, our argument has been: "Whether he said it or not is irrelevant. What matters is that everything in this statement is actually happening in the real world." This is precisely the argument we use to those who question the legitimacy of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Anyone reading the Protocols -- if he wishes to be fair -- has to admit that the strategies laid out in that book are being implemented in the West almost exactly to the letter. But for those to whom these arguments do not persuade, we offer the following: Father Yiorgos aired on the 30th of June '03. Father Mettalinos is one of the most widely respected individuals in Greece, right up there with Archbishop Christodoulos. He also happens to be a professor of Ecclesiastical History at Athens University (he holds five university degrees, including two doctorates). A man beloved and admired by even those who disagree with him, his words are not ever taken lightly nor are they uttered frivolously. When Father Mettalinos speaks, most Greeks pay attention. And you can be sure that one of our staff members was paying enough attention to turn on the video recorder when Father Yiorgos mentioned Kissinger's name during the discussion. Here he is in his own words: "I was studying in Germany when Kissinger made this speech. It was in 1974, and I was listening to the late Pavlo Bakoyianni's Greek program out of Munich. The speech was in the English language with a Greek overvoice translation. I know English and can tell you with absolute certainty that he made those comments because I heard him make them."

[effie]

"A rather "incidental" item appeared in the magazine Economicos Tachidromos of 14 August 1997. It referred to a speech Henry Kissinger gave years before, during which he said the following:



The Greek people are anarchic and difficult to tame. For this reason

we must strike deep into their cultural roots: Perhaps then we can force

them to conform. I mean, of course, to strike at their language, their religion,

their cultural and historical reserves, so that we can neutralize their ability to

develop, to distinguish themselves, or to prevail; thereby removing them as an

obstacle to our strategically vital plans in the Balkans, the Mediterranean, and

the Middle East. [See note below. ed.]



Father Yiorgos Mettalinos was one of the guests on Andóni Zisimátos' TV program Me Apopsi (Μέ ΄Αποψι) which aired on the 30th of June '03. Father Mettalinos is one of the most widely respected individuals in Greece, right up there with Archbishop Christodoulos. He also happens to be a professor of Ecclesiastical History at Athens University (he holds five university degrees, including two doctorates). A man beloved and admired by even those who may disagree with him, his words are not ever taken lightly nor are they uttered frivolously. When Father Mettalinos speaks, most Greeks pay attention. And you can be sure that one of our staff members was paying enough attention to turn on the video recorder when Father Yiorgos mentioned Kissinger during the discussion. Here he is in his own words:

I was studying in Germany when Kissinger made this speech. It was

in 1974, and I was listening to the late Pavlo Bakoyianni's Greek

program out of Munich. The speech was in the English language with

a Greek overvoice translation. I know English and can tell you with

absolute certainty that he made those comments because I heard him

make them."


The Economiko Tachydromos is not some third-rate news magazine (as Time e.g. has become). If this piece of news were in another news magazine I wouldn't be too sure about its accuracy, but this particular magazine is usually accurate in what it prints.

And doesn't it seem strange to you that Greece has been under attack the last 20 years or so. The many articles I have read attacking everything about Greece cannot just be a coincidence. I'm not paranoid but some of the things said about this country, its people, its history etc. are ridiculous and lead one to believe that they are orchestrated. As another poster pointed out : study Kissinger's history concerning Greece and you will discover that he is not friend to Greece.

Read reports about Greece before say 1975 and reports after this approx. date and you will see that "something" has changed.

[Tsontos]

Originally Posted by Truth Bearer

The kissinger comment has not be proven as 1 person claimed to have heard it on the radio whole he was in germany........Utter rubbish if you ask me.

I have to say I agree. I'd take anything on the greco report site with a grain of salt as well.

[Tsontos]

Originally Posted by effie

It is even being said that we are of African descent............... I'm fair haired and have green eyes, my husband is blonde and has ice blue eyes.

Yes, definitely from Africa.

Effie

This was not part of a 'conspiracy against Hellenism' but yet another Skopjian pseudo-scientific ploy. Most of the geneologists were of FYROM descent:

http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/for...nians-sub.html

[Truth Bearer]

When Kissinger made the alledged comment why haven't other people who heard it come forward and verify his claims???I mean he was on radion in Munich with a population of a few million surely one other person can substantiate Metalinos claims....

[Truth Bearer]

And yes we know that he was behind the invasion of Cyprus and that he did support the Junta in Greece,but he did it for US interests not his so called hidden conspiracy agenda of anti Hellenism.You must remember that Greece in 1967 had a large communist movement where our country was becoming very distabilized politically.Papandreou the son was an avid Trotskyst

[Truth Bearer]

The 1992 Top Management Forum Competing in Global Markets

Henry Kissinger

An Analysis of the Global Geopolitical Environment

Management Centre Europe

18-19 June 1992, Paris
2/10/92
This is an abstract of the minutes kept during the annual meeting of Management Centre Europe held in Paris on June. During the questions time at the end of Henry Kissinger's presentation one of the questions was:

"What is your opinion for the problem which Greece have to accept the name Macedonia which the Scopia Government is trying to implement?"
Mr Kissiger asked the man who asked the question:
"Are you Greek ?"
Reply "Yes"
"Look, I believe that Greece is right to object and I agree with Athens. The reason is that I know History which is not the case with most of the others including most of the Government and Administration in Washington.
The strength of the Greek case is that of the History which I must say that Athens have not used so far with success."