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Old 02-27-2007, 02:51 AM
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Hi guys, thought id just raise this subject for discussion.

I was just wondering to myself how come our ancestors didnt move into the Industrial Revolution?

We had discoverd the atom, steam, automata, gears etc....so why didn't our blessed ancients hellenes move into the industrial sector? I see so many ancient texts of phenomenal things we made, even our eastern brothers marveled at our constructions and technologia.
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Old 02-27-2007, 03:01 AM
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Lakonian I think you read to much Liakopoulos
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Lakonian I think you read to much Liakopoulos

Ela re akrita, im being serious. I mean some of the things we built is like beyond phenomenal, our everday society is based on ancient greek creations and principals....the list would never end if we were to analyse how many people have built there discoveries on ancient Greek foundations..Galileo (or however you spell his name), Newton...blah blah.

I have read that an ancient Greek Astronomer had created a flying bird!It ran on steam and flapped its wings...and a temple with automated doors that were activated when a guests foot would touch the first step, trumpets would blow and the statues would move automaticaly...these things cannot be disregarder as tall tales, they are recorded by our ancestors...what about the antykythera mechanism?

Man, check out the official website of antykythera mechanism, Greek American and British scientists who have come to a conclusion that it was an ancient Greek astronomical computer which contained gears so fine, only lasers could have crafted it!?

Theres more than meets the eye with our ancestors and it fascinating.
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Old 02-27-2007, 04:18 AM
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Its not that the advancements which constituted the industrial revolution were that amazing, its the economic, political and social forces it unleashed which changed the world and have nothing to do with ancient Greece in that sense.
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What do you mean had nothing to do with ancient Greece?
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I just dont see the point in asking "why didnt Greece have an industrial revolution" when the vital ingredients and outcomes of the industrial revolution bear no resemblence to environment of ancient Greece.

You can talk about how advanced the gizmos and machinery was, perhaps more advanced than parts of Europe at that time but we already know that the ancient greeks excelled in fields further than other peoples thousands of years later. Still today they surpass us in many ways though no longer technologically
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I see what you mean brother, but i just wonder why it wasnt applied in the sense of creating efficiency is ceratin ares, like steamed boats, electrical lighting, i know ist sounds extreme but come on, great thinkers is one thing and discovering atoms is just plain phenomenal which ever way you look at it.

I still wonder how the hell they even studied the planets without telescopes moon ok, mars ok, venus and mercury fine, but what about saturn? Jupiter? How the hell did Plato know saturn carried rings?

How did they view Venus coming in the path of the sun without going blind? There are Greek astronomical texts which describe this process and without sun shades you cant view it! Only telescopes can view this , with the human the brightness of teh sun wuld be overwhelming.

Akrita Liakopulos is a looney tune, im love my Greek history and yes i think they were mystical most of the times, but Liakopoulos is abit too wierd.lol
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Lakonian the most development cities at the past according the historical sources in the antiquity were 4 cities.
Ephesus,Athens,Roma and Alexandria.

Why in none of them we dont fhave ind any evidence in order to support your claims as about the industrial develpoment (specially in those that we have Greek influence) ?
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Sorry dude, i didnt get the second sentence, abit of typos there (dont wory im typo king, rush rush rush)
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Sorry dude, i didnt get the second sentence, abit of typos there (dont wory im typo king, rush rush rush)
Why in none of them we dont have find any evidence(archaelogical) in order to support your claims as about the industrial develpoment ?
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