For pro-Greek in ancient Macedonian language

[kostas68]

Originally Posted by ZZm

I think that you are misinformed about his theory.
If its true, it means that ancient macedonians spoke "slavic"

Originally Posted by ZZm

(if really slavic migration did happened)!

Originally Posted by ZZm

So it means that the language that I speak has roots from the ancient macedonian, cause some words and the grammar are similar or identical with the modern macedonian and his dialects, and of course with the other "slavic" languages.

Originally Posted by ZZm

But its still a theory. Tentov(btw Aristotel Tentov has a interesting name ey) and Boshevski were called in St. Petersburg in some university(I think it was called "Puskin") few weeks ago and they represented there their findings and the method they used. So we will see what will happen. They say that they have tried their method on other stones and they say that it works.

Sorry,my friend,but in St.Petersburg doesn't exist any University with such a name.
http://en.alexandrinsky.ru/

Originally Posted by ZZm

If this theory comes a fact,

Originally Posted by ZZm

many things will change.
So we will be the only true Macedonians!
But like I said. Its a THEORY.

[gmellos]

Originally Posted by ZZm

I think that you are misinformed about his theory.
If its true, it means that ancient macedonians spoke "slavic"(if really slavic migration did happened)! So it means that the language that I speak has roots from the ancient macedonian, cause some words and the grammar are similar or identical with the modern macedonian and his dialects, and of course with the other "slavic" languages.
But its still a theory. Tentov(btw Aristotel Tentov has a interesting name ey) and Boshevski were called in St. Petersburg in some university(I think it was called "Puskin") few weeks ago and they represented there their findings and the method they used. So we will see what will happen. They say that they have tried their method on other stones and they say that it works.
If this theory comes a fact, many things will change.
So we will be the only true Macedonians!
But like I said. Its a THEORY.

OK Actually there are archealogical records of the Slavic/Avar invasion happening! We see a complete drop of Roman/Hellenic artifacts and currency deposited in the Area that Historians claim the Avars and Slavs came into! Please stop believing in the your diaspora's lies and dellusions!

[Andrew]

Hallo ZZm and Welcome back !!!
I'm having a 10 min study break ..and it's good to see you around !!!

Originally Posted by ZZm

I think that you are misinformed about his theory.
If its true, it means that ancient macedonians spoke "slavic"(if really slavic migration did happened)

ooo No !! ZZm ...another "aboriginal" Balkanian .....we're having the same discusion with the albanians who claim to be the "original" tribe of the earth and by so claim Greeks , Romans , Trojans ...etc.

sometimes I think that only we Greeks admit that there was an Indoeuropean migration

Originally Posted by ZZm

But its still a theory. Tentov(btw Aristotel Tentov has a interesting name ey) If this theory comes a fact, many things will change.
So we will be the only true Macedonians!
But like I said. Its a THEORY.

First of all Aristotle wasn't Macedonianhe was an Ionian living in the Ionian colonies of Khalkidike and Khalkidiki later was included to Macedonia by king Philip.

About the interesting name Aristotle ....are you suggesting tha tmy great grand mother Elisabeth (Λισάβω/Τσάβω) is related to the Royal Family of England ???? or that Abraham Lincoln was a Jew ?

Any way ...I'm off !!!..tomorrow I have to give Psycology & Psychiatry and I have finished only half of the matter ....I have one night for the other half see you tomorrow guys !!!

[Victor]

Originally Posted by ZZm

So we will be the only true Macedonians!

And the guys with the growing population living on the other side of the river in SKoplje who will be the majority one day,what "true" will they be?

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by ZZm

So we will be the only true Macedonians!

ZZm I'm sorry to wake you from your beautiful dream mate ....but :


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Let's see the most important stuff:

1) "The latest archaeological findings have confirmed that Macedonia took it's name from a tribe of tall , Greek-speaking people , the Makednoi ..."

2) "The Macedonian kingdom streched more or less as far north as the present northern border of Greece."

3) "The "vulgar" Macedonians were not unanimously accepted by "refined" southern Greeks , especialy the Atheneans , as brethren ; occasionaly they were classified as "barbarians"."

4) "Philip II of Macedon was anxius to pacify and unify Greeks at any cost."

Nigel Guy wilson , Encyclopedia of Ancient Greece (2006)

[ZZm]

Originally Posted by kostas68

Sorry,my friend,but in St.Petersburg doesn't exist any University with such a name.

When I find out what was the name I will tell you!

[ZZm]

Originally Posted by Andrew

ZZm I'm sorry to wake you from your beautiful dream mate ....but :

I don't live in a dream my friend. Like I said: Its just a theory and waiting to be recognized or denied. We will see. Of course I have reserves my friend. I wont believe it until some world center confirms their work. Really men. Do you think that the majority in Macedonia are not reserved?
We are not idiots like many of you here, who believe in every crap of some "I wanna be hellen" sayings about my people and my country.
"Gligorov(ich) my nightmare". What a crap men.

Sorry for this off topic

For TB

You asked Dimitar M. about "-ski" in our last names. My father background is from the northeast of Macedonia. Before 1913 their last name was ending on "-ov". After that on "-ich" and then on "-ski". his father fought against the bulgarians. But my mother's last name always ended on "-ski" and she is from the villages near Struga(city near Ohrid). And my mother family comes from the Lerin region. They've moved near Struga in the 17 century.One of the cousins was exploring this and the old folks confirm this.
How many of the so called "makedones" can say that their roots are from this region?

[ZZm]

Originally Posted by Andrew

Hallo ZZm and Welcome back !!!
I'm having a 10 min study break ..and it's good to see you around !!!

Thanks men. Nice to "see" you too.

First of all Aristotle wasn't Macedonianhe was an Ionian living in the Ionian colonies of Khalkidike and Khalkidiki later was included to Macedonia by king Philip.

About the interesting name Aristotle ....are you suggesting tha tmy great grand mother Elisabeth (Λισάβω/Τσάβω) is related to the Royal Family of England ???? or that Abraham Lincoln was a Jew ?

I'm not suggesting anything.Its just interesting.

[Draco]

Originally Posted by ZZm

Like I said: Its just a theory and waiting to be recognized or denied.

When someone says this you know they're bullshitting. When a fringe theory is up against mainstream academic opinion, they try to present that opinion as just a mere theory among many theories all equal in value.

This is what the Creationists in the USA say. They believe that the world was created as it is in 6 days and claim that evolution is just one "theory" among many equally legitimate ones.

The propagandist's main tool.

Originally Posted by ZZm

And my mother family comes from the Lerin region. They've moved near Struga in the 17 century.

So here you have it, yet another "Aegean Macedonian".

The vast majority of Skopjians I've met claim that their families are refugees (i.e. settlers) from "Aegean" Macedonia. Makes you wonder how many Skopjians are actually indigenous to Vardarska; if they're all recent immigrants/settlers perhaps they should hand Vardarska over to the older "original" inhabitants, the Albanians.

[kostas68]

Originally Posted by ZZm

We are not idiots like many of you here, who believe in every crap of some "I wanna be hellen" sayings about my people and my country.

The idiot is the one who believes that he'll acquire certificates of nobility by the usurpation of some one else's history and legacy,in order to conflict his inferiority complex.

Originally Posted by ZZm

You asked Dimitar M. about "-ski" in our last names. My father background is from the northeast of Macedonia. Before 1913 their last name was ending on "-ov". After that on "-ich" and then on "-ski". his father fought against the bulgarians. But my mother's last name always ended on "-ski" and she is from the villages near Struga(city near Ohrid). And my mother family comes from the Lerin region. They've moved near Struga in the 17 century.One of the cousins was exploring this and the old folks confirm this.
How many of the so called "makedones" can say that their roots are from this region?

Wow,now you squashed us!!!Why should we believe your tales about your roots from 17th century?The only thing you can prove with your last name ending in -of is off course your Bulgarian origin.As for the <so called Makedones>,i think that me and other members of this forum have already posted a lot of testimonies of unbiased foreigners who visited Macedonia in the past centuries and found them residing there.They found also your ancestors there,but they mentioned that at that time they didn't call themselves <Macedonians> but Bulgarians.