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Old 05-11-2008, 12:07 PM
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The Coptic people of Egypt number easily over 10 million. Their writing system is also based on the Alphabet.

Do they possess a Greek Macedonian consciousness, and /or a Romaic consciousness, especially the ones who reside in Alexandria?
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Good point as far as I know they claim ancestry from the ancient non Arab Egyptians....
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Good point as far as I know they claim ancestry from the ancient non Arab Egyptians....

I met a father and son at a yard sale once 8 years ago and we talked and they claimed that many Copts were conscious of their Hellenistic ancestry and heritage and that the greek goverment supposedly gave some money into the gorgeous new Alexandrian Library.
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The Coptic people of Egypt number easily over 10 million. Their writing system is also based on the Alphabet.

Do they possess a Greek Macedonian consciousness, and /or a Romaic consciousness, especially the ones who reside in Alexandria?
No, they claim Ancient Egyptian heritage, and it is consistent with their Coptic language (Ancient Egyptian with Greek letters) and this very language is the descendant of the Demotic script of the Rosetta stone...
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No, they claim Ancient Egyptian heritage, and it is consistent with their Coptic language (Ancient Egyptian with Greek letters) and this very language is the descendant of the Demotic script of the Rosetta stone...
wasn't there a liberal genetic fusion of the ancient Egyptian people and ancient Greek speakers living in Egypt
and isn't there a bi-ethnic consciousness to this today at all with these Keeptee of this fact.

If not, there missing out of their Greek heritage.

The Egyptian government is not disclosing this in the national educational system then.
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No, they claim Ancient Egyptian heritage, and it is consistent with their Coptic language (Ancient Egyptian with Greek letters) and this very language is the descendant of the Demotic script of the Rosetta stone...
What are you on about? I know a few coptic egyptians, and they speak arabic on a day to day basis, HOWEVER they have half their church liturgy in greek eg xristos anesti. There is no coptic language??
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The Copts do not have a Greek national consciousness. This is because they have nothing in common with the Greeks and the Greeks consider the Copts heretics.
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There is no coptic language??
It is a dead language. They only use it in their liturgy.
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wasn't there a liberal genetic fusion of the ancient Egyptian people and ancient Greek speakers living in Egypt
and isn't there a bi-ethnic consciousness to this today at all with these Keeptee of this fact.

If not, there missing out of their Greek heritage.

The Egyptian government is not disclosing this in the national educational system then.
They have no Greek heritage, other than a Greek alphabet.
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What are you on about? I know a few coptic egyptians, and they speak arabic on a day to day basis, HOWEVER they have half their church liturgy in greek eg xristos anesti. There is no coptic language??
Coptic is getting extinct over time, so they speak Arabic, but that does not mean that they did not have a different heritage than the Arabic heritage. Their liturgy is in Greek because half the Eastern Christian worlds' liturgies are based in Greek, not just theirs...
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No, they claim Ancient Egyptian heritage, and it is consistent with their Coptic language (Ancient Egyptian with Greek letters) and this very language is the descendant of the Demotic script of the Rosetta stone...
Spot on.

The Copts are the real Egyptians, however if I am not mistaken they only number 5-7 million in Egypt today. In addition to them, there are Arab Egyptians who happen to be Orthodox, however they do not belong to the Coptic Church (mainly Antiochian).
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