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Old 03-22-2008, 08:38 AM
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Post Ok.Goodbye all.See some of ya elsewhere.



This is a final farewell to the all participants of the MOTW. Before I say goodbye and thanks, I threat to meet in vivo anybody close to me and give him a good round of beating he answers this topic, for he did not got the point.




First and foremost I do stand for everything I said and I grant you all the rights to use it as you see it fit.




Personal Identity:


Indeed, my name/surname is as stated on that legal document: Vasil Gligorov. Vasiliye being a Serb version. However, I opted for the variant Vasilj Gligorijevic in the petitioned legal change of the name. I do live in Skoplje, paradoxically in a cop flat block. Sufficient to say, they don't get into elevator with me. That would be it, that's me, with 3 billion other and roughly so females.


Next............


How did I got here: Googling, for all other search engines are doomed to failure. It looked as a place where one may talk. Got banned from all FYROMian forums, sporting an unusual practice for Liberal Arts bachelor to communicate with amateurs (looks arrogant), especially not the ones heavily hit by full-blown psychosis. Not all FYROMians are demented, just most of them.


What did I do here: talked, although the quality of my contributions declined, especially sharply recently, together with some undelivered promises and on top of all that, i mentioned that I am from a Florina/Kastoria Bulgarian Communist partisans family. Those of you who swallowed the theory that ethnicity is biological, that females have ethnicity and there is such thing as 'half-half etc. national affinity, well, I probably got a minus here.


Got several derogating PM by few Greek members, inadvertently gave my MSN to a long-standing member which flashed me some pics........hmmm.....containing plenty of hardware I have, talked with a dubious freelancer who from some reasons know to him, established an unusual attachment to me (sending me useless to him tasks thrice a day). Motives are clear to me (no, they are not like those of that aforementioned psycho) but I cannot prove them beyond pointing to the circumstantial evidence, and I won't. If I'm right, the Cause has been infiltrated and playing position and opposition by guys who are back-tapping each other after sheep guidance maneuvers is already well-known political method.


Playing tough to get is FYROMian tactics they own their voters. There are some condensed agitprop debates among intelligentsia these days where the consensus is that as long the name Macedonia stays, no big deal if we add some epithet to it , I anticipated it, the entire political agenda is all about NATO/EU, it is so pivotal, the sheep is so convinced that the very membership, instead of buying Vietnam era mothballed helicopters and tanks and sending their military to patrol Taiwan or moons Pakistan, for symbolic reasons means 2.000 EUR sallaries in couple of years and 6 from 35% unemployment.



Serbia.............ohmmmm.........you already guessed, Serbia cannot do anything in FYROM.
If it DS-SRS coalitions wins, it will join Russia, in order to secure defense by legal automatism, since being surrounded they cannot count on a delivery of Russian help (and contrary to popular opinion, Russian would nevertheless ask for cash, which Serbs don't have) and finally, to build an army which would be deterrent to USA (by producing too much body bags for politicians to swallow) would take 4-5 years and 30-100 bill. of investing.


If that happens, maybe it will happen what witty Saddam did and Miloević, imbecile as he was, didn't: to forget fighting US on sea or against USAF supremacy and deliberately invite them all the way to Belgrade, with stay-behind troops and resort to terrorism abroad, since there would be no Serbian state to be blamed for.The idiot capitulated a week before the project expansion of Arlington field should have begun and put into our history a first war without any dead enemy combatant.


Many of my 5cents were lost on these geopolitical predictions.Its just that a permanent breaking with Euroatlantism is something I and few others want.If that happens it will be the single most important decision of the Serbs in their modern history.



Again, while I could occasionally get here and talk, furthermore so when the things are getting interested, no, frankly, I already sound like a circulating vinil which get scratchier every turn.


Let me be frank. Regardless of the Serbias incoming black-white choice, it ceases to be any factor regarding Greek interest and regarding the changed local context (name issue, looking over gunsights with Turkey), probable Democratic shift in USA, Bulgaria become strategic partner of Greece, in a very formal and factually escalating way, while Greece aid to Serbia, was, while undoubtedly motivated by idealism, also possible calculation that there shall emerge a Greater Serbia and it will slightly balance the Balkan state of affair vs. the Islamic element and maybe pressure FYROM, showed wrong, Serbia looks moribund and yes, while the popular support is great, Serbia cannot return the favor.


In a matter of fact, anything but distancing of official Athens from Serbia, especially if it becomes Russian Prefecture would solidify rest of the EU-USA opinion of the Greeks as hotheads that cannot be counted upon (a compliment, but actually a big turnoff regarding their interests).Greeks cannot be expelled but frowned upon, shunned and bypassed in favor of Turkey, Bulgaria and Albania, yes.


Therefore, concluding that:


-The nature of my obligations and shift of priorities is such that I cannot keep to the quality required here (Chickened? ....pak,pak,pak!!!No.......)


-The failure to deliver certain promises to the administration, none of them impossible.


-The strong convictions instilled into many of you that Serbs invented the Pseudomacedonians and that Macedonism is today led by some pact of Covertly acting Serbian colonists and their descendants plus official Belgrade and it is directed against Bulgaria (weaking by splicing plus a claim on their territory) and against Greece (potential outlet to the Aegean) and they in coordination with Belgrade control all the Vergina-star NGOs, groups, Aleksandar e nas, Solun e nas organization of FYROMians, the journalism, the nominal Government.


I am afraid that you bought the story, perhaps understandably, there is no serious Serbian produced content about this long-forgotten issue on the Internet, while for Bulgarians it is a first class national issue as manifested in their sites where they spread things like Bulgarians are beheaded by sable on squares in FYROM if they declare their nationality (and stuff like that) by the Belgrade's puppet Government in FYROM.




Having nothing else to say (I wish it was otherwise), again-standing by all I stated, (sans non-deliberate factual errors), promising that I won't make any pathetic comeback, asking that this topic remains:


-Closed (please do NOT answer, do not PM me, but email me at any time if you wish)
-Standing for 24 hours, not more.


Thanks to you all. Long live Greeks and Greece, I owe much to Hellenism.
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Old 03-22-2008, 09:55 AM
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Well im going to answer anyway...why leave? The above endless and none vital information to anyone makes little sense as to why you are leaving.

Come on man i have been banned more than 3 times and im still here, at least that makes two of us who see this dillema as being monogenic, a united europe makes rules apply much faster for the bankers and the beaurocrats, and not to mention security.

People take things like this realy personaly and they have very little idea of the clockworks that run in the background, bussiness as usual......everybody is to busy forming a useless opinion.

If you at least have one ounce of belief that you can help on some level...stick around brother, make that difference.
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Old 03-22-2008, 10:21 AM
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good luck Vassilye in your life.in any case your help here was indeed admirable
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Old 03-22-2008, 01:30 PM
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Vasiliye, thank you for all your contributions to this website. Your knowledge was and will be very valuable to me. You have been a true warrior of truth. I really hope you don't leave. I enjoyed knowing you friend.

Good luck in your quest of travelling....and just...being.



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Old 03-22-2008, 01:39 PM
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Vasiliye we need you here on this forum yr contribution was second to none I don't understand why yr going but for whatever reasons take and may the Gods of Mt Olympus look out for you my friend.
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Old 03-23-2008, 12:33 AM
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Hell I'm always getting people bashing me. I liked your posts and if we didn't always agree, so what? Stay.
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Old 03-23-2008, 02:13 AM
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Dude I emplore you to stay.
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Old 03-23-2008, 02:22 AM
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Stay dude.
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Old 03-23-2008, 06:17 AM
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Vasiliye you are an excellent example for all people. I hope you do come back. There are radicals in every culture, including Greece. I apologize for anything that may have insulted you, this is the nature of these political forums.

This forum was a place for everyone to speak their minds, and you were an example to follow in terms of references and ideas.

Hope we see you again soon.
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Old 03-24-2008, 04:19 AM
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Vasiliye my hat goes off to you sir, hope to see you around freind......
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