The Fyromians from Hunza are coming back home!.

[Tsontos]

Originally Posted by Ptolemy

One more thing. Next time i will witness any of you Fyromian Parrots to fill the place up by parroting your moronic propaganda sites, you will get instantly banned.

good pic

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by ZZm

Greece reminds me of the Borg Collectivity from Star Trek.

Prepare to be assimilated. Resistance is futile!

Maybe Jene Rodenberry was inspired by Greece.

How do you think our culture reached India ...with harsh language ???

Now ZZm ...I'd like you to tell me who do you think were the ancient Greeks???

If you ever understand the "hellenogenesis" you'll understand that the ancients were much more "bastards" than modern Greeks !!

Paleolithic native inhabitans
1st wave Neolithic agriculturers that came from Asia around 7000 BC
2nd Wave of Asian emmigrands around 3000 BC
Anatolian Indoeuropeans from Thrace (Carians , Lydians, Luwians etc) around 2500 BC
Proto-Greeks Indoeuropeans from Romania via Kosovo and Albania around 2000 BC
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Mix everything and you have your pure "ancient Greeks" !!!

"Bastardness" is the secret of Greek success ...Meliorative hybridation as Hans Eynseck would say (the psycologists that proved that kids from heretoracial parents tend to be more intelligent from the kids from homoracial parents)...watch's this piece od Herodotus to see how "pure" were the ancient Greeks !!!

145. Upon these they laid this penalty: but as for the Ionians, I think that the reason why they made of themselves twelve cities and would not receive any more into their body, was because when they dwelt in Peloponnesus there were of them twelve divisions, just as now there are twelve divisions of the Achaians who drove the Ionians out: for first, (beginning from the side of Sikyon) comes Pellene, then Aigeira and Aigai, in which last is the river Crathis with a perpetual flow (whence the river of the same name in Italy received its name), and Bura and Helike, to which the Ionians fled for refuge when they were worsted by the Achaians in fight, and Aigion and Rhypes and Patreis and Phareis and Olenos, where is the great river Peiros, and Dyme and Tritaieis, of which the last alone has an inland position. These form now twelve divisions of the Achaians, and in former times they were divisions of the Ionians.

146. For this reason then the Ionians also made for themselves twelve cities; for at any rate to say that these are any more Ionians than the other Ionians, or have at all a nobler descent, is mere folly, considering that a large part of them are Abantians from Eubœa, who have no share even in the name of Ionia, and Minyai of Orchomenos have been mingled with them, and Cadmeians and Dryopians and Phokians who seceded from their native State and Molossians and Pelasgians of Arcadia and Dorians of Epidauros and many other races have been mingled with them; and those of them who set forth to their settlements from the City Hall of Athens and who esteem themselves the most noble by descent of the Ionians, these, I say, brought no women with them to their settlement, but took Carian women, whose parents they slew: and on account of this slaughter these women laid down for themselves a rule, imposing oaths on one another, and handed it on to their daughters, that they should never eat with their husbands, nor should a wife call her own husband by name, for this reason, because the Ionians had slain their fathers and husbands and children and then having done this had them to wife. This happened at Miletos.

Talking about Borg ee ZZm !!!...so be good or we are going to complete Alexander's operation ..and Hellenize you ALL from South Africa to Norway !!!

[Petros Houhoulis]

Originally Posted by ZZm

Greece reminds me of the Borg Collectivity from Star Trek.

Prepare to be assimilated. Resistance is futile!

Maybe Jene Rodenberry was inspired by Greece.

Not really. Forced assimilation is usually a failure, and Greece has had a lot of successful assimilations, mostly because the others sought to assimilate into the Greek culture...

[Demetrius Doukas]

ZZm...................your insinuations are quite stupid and ....................insolent......scopian boy better get out of here and take a walk with the ships in your scopian land Ok?

[Demetrius Doukas]

I think that the existing of scopian nazi state propaganda should be officially banned in 21 century?!
Fly away scopian.........they are all the same this is not dialog this insolent insinuation, get off your dirty hands from Macedonia

[ZZm]

Originally Posted by Ptolemy

Most of the times while reading the usual gibberish of Fyromians here, i wonder whether its actually One totally retarded person behind many fake profiles or not. Its almost impossible to believe there are so many fyromians suffering from mental retardation out there. Once in a while try for a change to go outside and take deep breaths. In the end it may save you before your brain starts to rot from all that festering stagnation and your hereditary factor of brain dysfunction.

I think the same way for you and your fellow countrymen!

[ZZm]

Originally Posted by kostas68

Out of any logical sense is your attempt to present Greece as a country with many oppresed minorities.So,all the international organizations are so blind that they can't see it,only you are so clever eh?Have you ever heard about population exchanges?This explains partially the absence of minorities in Greece.I understand that it's difficult for you to believe that in Greece aren't significant minorities,since you're living in a country where the 40% of the total population is consisted of minorities.As for the <real Greeks> and the <descend from Plato>,i've wrote it many times,there are no pure ethnicities,only dirty minds.Every ethnicity on earth is mixed,perhaps only tribes like the Eskimos,the Laps,the Bushmen and the Papuas are <pure> and <unmixed>.We are also mixed,as everyone in the Balkans,but not in the degree that we haven't any connection to Plato,Aristotle and Alexander,as all your compatriots believe.

Than who gives you the right to judge the others mainly me and to say that we are just a mix of blah blah blah ..?

And you should know something,the assimilating ability and power of an ethnicity depicts always the level of its cultural development.The fact that almost all the non-Greek tribes who settled in Greece accepted with eagerness their Hellenization,shows the superiority of the Greek spirit.

I don't know how eager they were but like I said that the greek culture was to strong for any people especially the one who are semi-literate.

This provokes your envy,since you know very well that no one would be eager today to become <Makedonski>

It does not provoke envy in me.
And do you think its easy to be a macedonian?
Its one of the hardest "jobs" in the world, but we have to do it no matter what!
So why will someone be so eager to be a macedonian?
Btw no one likes today to be greek also.
It would be so easier to me if I was a scandinavian or german, but I'm not.

Why,what names have the Roma in FYROM?Esma Redjepova isn't a typicall <Makedonski> name?Oh,it isn't!It has not the -ski surfix,sorry!It has to be an original Roma name!

She chose that.
Ask the parliament members that are romas: Amdi Bajram and Shaban Saliu,
where are they suffixes?

Can you tell us,what names have the Greeks in Monastir?Have they Greek surfixes,or they were forced to add a -ski?This here claims that he was called Konstandinidis,but at Tito's time it was changed by the authorities to Michailovski.He says also that around 100.000 Greeks live in this area:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLfPoaQIeKM

Ahaaaaaaaa. The famous 100000 greeks, sometimes are 200000 it depends.
Its just the same with our claims of 200 000 or 500 000 macedonians in Greece!
Around 500 said that are greeks in the last census.

Even the Greek names in some tombstones were rewritten with Cyrillic letters:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8EfZ...eature=related

Can you tell me than about the churches with cyrillic inscriptions in Greece?

If i'm not wrong,there isn't any proper mosque in Athens,although the last years it was planed to be built one.As for the forreign immigrants in Athens,
they are probably over 200.000.

What happened? You "found" 10 muslims in 5 000 000 in the 21 century so now you are planing to build one.

I don't think many of them settled in areas that belong today in Greece,the vast majority was living in today FYROM's territory and after their Christianization soon followed their Bulgarization,(that's why they were under the jurisdiction of the archbishop of Ohrid) and some centuries later occured their <Macedonization>.Even if some of them settled later in Greek soil,their descendands are very known:the Vinozito's voters.

Come one men. They settled centuries ago and they were not a significant number. Either were slavonized or hellenized. So who cares.

[kostas68]

Originally Posted by ZZm

Than who gives you the right to judge the others mainly me and to say that we are just a mix of blah blah blah ..?

We are not judging anyone.We don't care if you're a mix of Slavs,Thracians,Illurians,e.t.c we only care because you're trying to usurp a name that belongs to us while you're a mix which is consisted of everything except Macedonians

Originally Posted by ZZm

It does not provoke envy in me.
And do you think its easy to be a macedonian?
Its one of the hardest "jobs" in the world, but we have to do it no matter what!

Thanks for the laugh!
Yes,it's very hard for someone to be a Macedonian,since all his ancestors till 1900 were Bulgarians.But i find it very easy to be a Macedonian if you fulfil the criteria.I am myself a Macedonian and i don't find it so hard

Originally Posted by ZZm

So why will someone be so eager to be a macedonian?
Btw no one likes today to be greek also.
It would be so easier to me if I was a scandinavian or german, but I'm not.

It would be so easier for all your people,if they accept their true identity.

Originally Posted by ZZm

She chose that.
Ask the parliament members that are romas: Amdi Bajram and Shaban Saliu,
where are they suffixes?

As far as i know some of the Roma in FYROM descend from Egyptians who settled there in 19th century,therefore they kept their original names.
http://flagspot.net/flags/mk_eg.html#egy

Originally Posted by ZZm

Can you tell me than about the churches with cyrillic inscriptions in Greece?

If there are cyrillic inscriptions in some churches in Greece,these were probably written by Bulgarians during the Bulgarian occupation or the Ottoman time.Don't forget the Bulgarian exarchate,how come that these inscriptions were in <Macedonski>,since it wasn't written till 1945?

Originally Posted by ZZm

Come one men. They settled centuries ago and they were not a significant number. Either were slavonized or hellenized. So who cares.

They were hellenized?By whom?If someone is hellenized,there have to be some Greeks there to hellenize him,am i right?So you don't believe this great authority,Risto Stefov,who claims that in Macedonia before 1913 weren't any Greeks living?

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by Kostas68

They were hellenized?By whom?If someone is hellenized,there have to be some Greeks there to hellenize him,am i right?So you don't believe this great authority,Risto Stefov,who claims that in Macedonia before 1913 weren't any Greeks living?

That was good Kosta !!!

Maybe it was the Borgs who Hellenized them ...

I'd also like to ask ZZm and all the others who considered the ancient Macedonians hellenized ...WHEN, HOW and by WHOM ???

It's not enough to say someone "is hellenized" ...you must give details ..a 3-dimensional vector answer ..(x,y,z) =(when , how , by WHOM) !

[Bardas]

Originally Posted by TirAlb

Is funny how fyroms hate bulgarians,their true relatives,and call them with all the possible derogatory insults,and on the other side they worship this couple of "gipsy kings" from pakistan.

Indeed it is funny especially how they go on and on how they resemble Nords.

@ what TB posted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0LSo...eature=related

I found it particularly funny when the Hunza Pakis commented how that skopi journalist looks exactly like the locals and she agreed...


...and these are the locals:

Btw those red and yellow hats were perfect,perfect to show what kind of clowns they are.

You're spot on, they are clowns. Tito made them the clowns of the Balkans and are now Gruevski is making them the clowns of Europe.