The Fyromians from Hunza are coming back home!.

[kostas68]

Originally Posted by Bardas

Indeed it is funny especially how they go on and on how they resemble Nords.

@ what TB posted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0LSo...eature=related

I found it particularly funny when the Hunza Pakis commented how that skopi journalist looks exactly like the locals and she agreed...


...and these are the locals:




You're spot on, they are clowns. Tito made them the clowns of the Balkans and are now Gruevski is making them the clowns of Europe.

We can't know actually if this Hunza guy said exactly that,since we all know the Scopian forgeries.They show someone speaking English with a foreign accent,but how can we be sure that this voice belongs really to him?How the hell learnt English someone who lives in a place where you can hardly find a decent school?I believe the Scopians <put> these words in this man's mouth,he seems clever enough to say such bulshit,only the Scopians are so stupid to think that they'll gain something presenting some gypsy-looking people who say that the Scopians resemble them.

[Bardas]

Originally Posted by kostas68

We can't know actually if this Hunza guy said exactly that,since we all know the Scopian forgeries.They show someone speaking English with a foreign accent,but how can we be sure that this voice belongs really to him?How the hell learnt English someone who lives in a place where you can hardly find a decent school?I believe the Scopians <put> these words in this man's mouth,he seems clever enough to say such bulshit,only the Scopians are so stupid to think that they'll gain something presenting some gypsy-looking people who say that the Scopians resemble them.

The real point is they usually yap how Nordish they look and now they harp on how they resemble Pakistanis.

[kostas68]

Originally Posted by Bardas

The real point is they usually yap how Nordish they look and now they harp on how they resemble Pakistanis.

This is indeed funny.Can you imagine them claiming all of sudden that they are darker than the Greeks,you can find hardly fair-skinned people in Scopia e.t.c.
They are so stupid that they would claim they resemble even the Bushmans,if the Hunza looked like Bushmans.

[ZZm]

Originally Posted by Andrew

How do you think our culture reached India ...with harsh language ???

Now ZZm ...I'd like you to tell me who do you think were the ancient Greeks???

If you ever understand the "hellenogenesis" you'll understand that the ancients were much more "bastards" than modern Greeks !!

Paleolithic native inhabitans
1st wave Neolithic agriculturers that came from Asia around 7000 BC
2nd Wave of Asian emmigrands around 3000 BC
Anatolian Indoeuropeans from Thrace (Carians , Lydians, Luwians etc) around 2500 BC
Proto-Greeks Indoeuropeans from Romania via Kosovo and Albania around 2000 BC
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Mix everything and you have your pure "ancient Greeks" !!!

"Bastardness" is the secret of Greek success ...Meliorative hybridation as Hans Eynseck would say (the psycologists that proved that kids from heretoracial parents tend to be more intelligent from the kids from homoracial parents)...watch's this piece od Herodotus to see how "pure" were the ancient Greeks !!!

So where is your success now?
I don't see any brainacs from Greece!
Maybe cause you got stupid under that brainwashing and you cannot think on your own!
Another proof that you have nothing to do with the ancient greeks!
And its very stupid to link your self with a dead civilization and to try to enforce their ways!

Talking about Borg ee ZZm !!!...so be good or we are going to complete Alexander's operation ..and Hellenize you ALL from South Africa to Norway !!!

You did not succeed by now so you wont ever!
We are a torn in the eye of you and the bulgarians!

[ZZm]

Originally Posted by kostas68

We are not judging anyone.We don't care if you're a mix of Slavs,Thracians,Illurians,e.t.c we only care because you're trying to usurp a name that belongs to us while you're a mix which is consisted of everything except Macedonians

Yeah right. Your name.
If its that than you should charge for using of greek names in math, physics and the other science, for constellations, stars, galaxies, planets and who knows what else!
So my friend your argument is lame!

Yes,it's very hard for someone to be a Macedonian,since all his ancestors till 1900 were Bulgarians.But i find it very easy to be a Macedonian if you fulfil the criteria.I am myself a Macedonian and i don't find it so hard

Hey, if you feel that way who am I to judge. I will accept you as a brother.

As far as i know some of the Roma in FYROM descend from Egyptians who settled there in 19th century,therefore they kept their original names.
http://flagspot.net/flags/mk_eg.html#egy

Check the numbers first.
All romas in Macedonia have their names and a small number of them have in their last name "-ov" or "-ski"!
It seems in your country everyone can be a descent of Alexander as long he has "is" or "os"!

If there are cyrillic inscriptions in some churches in Greece,these were probably written by Bulgarians during the Bulgarian occupation or the Ottoman time.Don't forget the Bulgarian exarchate,how come that these inscriptions were in <Macedonski>,since it wasn't written till 1945?

But why the change?
Really men your country is sick and twisted society!

They were hellenized?By whom?If someone is hellenized,there have to be some Greeks there to hellenize him,am i right?So you don't believe this great authority,Risto Stefov,who claims that in Macedonia before 1913 weren't any Greeks living?

Come on men. Don't play dumb.
We both know about the propagandas from Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia.

[ZZm]

Originally Posted by Andrew

That was good Kosta !!!

Maybe it was the Borgs who Hellenized them ...

I'd also like to ask ZZm and all the others who considered the ancient Macedonians hellenized ...WHEN, HOW and by WHOM ???

It's not enough to say someone "is hellenized" ...you must give details ..a 3-dimensional vector answer ..(x,y,z) =(when , how , by WHOM) !

I was just exploring the possibility.
Open up questions.
You know how are people like me.
I only wanted to hear of what you will say.

We know that history is not an exact science so who cares?
Things changes through the time.
Babylon was the center of the earth today is gone.
Egypt built pyramids 5000 years ago and it was the most advance civilization of his time and today is nothing.
Just like YOU(don't take it personally)!
Greece is not even a pale image of what was ancient Greece!

[Petros Houhoulis]

Originally Posted by ZZm

I was just exploring the possibility.
Open up questions.
You know how are people like me.
I only wanted to hear of what you will say.

We know that history is not an exact science so who cares?
Things changes through the time.
Babylon was the center of the earth today is gone.
Egypt built pyramids 5000 years ago and it was the most advance civilization of his time and today is nothing.
Just like YOU(don't take it personally)!
Greece is not even a pale image of what was ancient Greece!

Well, it isn't just Greece that got smaller. Something else more radical took place: The world "got bigger". One of the reasons that the world grew so much so fast was that shadow of Ancient Greece...

...Greece has many children...

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by ZZm

I was just exploring the possibility.
Open up questions.
You know how are people like me.
I only wanted to hear of what you will say.

We know that history is not an exact science so who cares?
Things changes through the time.
Babylon was the center of the earth today is gone.
Egypt built pyramids 5000 years ago and it was the most advance civilization of his time and today is nothing.
Just like YOU(don't take it personally)!
Greece is not even a pale image of what was ancient Greece!

Hellenization = (When , How , by Whom) ???

"Money talks and bullsh*t walks !!!!"

"In every situation the real condition is unique , but the false conditions are infinite"

[kostas68]

Originally Posted by ZZm

Yeah right. Your name.
If its that than you should charge for using of greek names in math, physics and the other science, for constellations, stars, galaxies, planets and who knows what else!
So my friend your argument is lame!

The use of Greek terms in Mathematics,Physic,Medicine e.t.c. is one thing,and the usurpation of a Greek name and a big part of the Greek history is another.We feel pride for the first,because the global community honours our history and legacy using these Greek terms,but we feel exasperation for the second,because a bunch of apateones and kleftokotades (frauds and chicken thiefs) like Stefov,Tentov,Donski e.t.c. is trying to dishonour our history and legacy claiming that it belongs to them.

Originally Posted by ZZm

Hey, if you feel that way who am I to judge. I will accept you as a brother.

Yes,according to Christianity we are all brothers,but according to ethnology,history e.t.c we are not,since i am the Macedonian and you are...i don't call you Bulgarian if you cosider it as insult,but i think it's not offensive to call you Slav,and you can't find a decent historian who claims that ancient Macedonians spoke Slavic instead Greek.

Originally Posted by ZZm

Check the numbers first.
All romas in Macedonia have their names and a small number of them have in their last name "-ov" or "-ski"!
It seems in your country everyone can be a descent of Alexander as long he has "is" or "os"!

You know very well that the Gypsies are people who can't be assimilated so easily,so don't think that they are considered as ethnic Greeks.As for the surfixes,they hadn't any surnames till the early 20th century,so they accepted probably the names that the clerks who catalogued them invented and i don't tink they protested for the surfix.

Originally Posted by ZZm

But why the change?
Really men your country is sick and twisted society!

What change?The original inscriptions on these icons were Greek,the cyrilic were added very later.Do you believe that your compatriots haven't wipe out many Greek inscription from the old churches in Ohrid and Monastir?

Originally Posted by ZZm

Come on men. Don't play dumb.
We both know about the propagandas from Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia.

Yeah,the same story,the Greek propagandists who transformed all the people to Greeks with a touch of their magical cane.Have you ever heard about the propaganda of the <Macedonists> ?This was the birth certificate of the <Macedonian> ethnicity,signed by 2 Serbians:

[gmellos]

why argue with zzm??? He doesn't argue as normal person! he uses "you're a sad culture and or nation" or the classic "whatever " I say unless he starts to debate as a normal person ban his ass!