The Fyromians from Hunza are coming back home!.

[ZZm]

Greece reminds me of the Borg Collectivity from Star Trek.

Prepare to be assimilated. Resistance is futile!

Maybe Jene Rodenberry was inspired by Greece.

[ZZm]

Originally Posted by gmellos

Actually I HAVE a History degreee! You guys run around claiming the Rosetta Stone had Slavic on it and was hidden by a Greek conspiricy even though the translators where British! The problems that History is cuasing by the way it is currently viewed are that they DO NOT support your nation's claims!

MAybe It is because FYROM selectively disregards quotes from comtemptories of the Ancients whenever it doesn't suit your Slavic and non Hellenic theories of the Ancient Macedonians! Also please explain WHY Macedonian Kings and Noblity would claim decent from "NON-Macedonian" Legends and Mythological people!???

Also with regards to the Turkish Christian ie Pontic Greeks becomeing Greek scopian thoery. WHY WOULD a Turkish person who was part of the Muslim world since at least 1071 AD convert to be a Christian especially after living within a Muslim Turkish dominated Empire stay Christian knowing that equals Second class citizenship while Watching his Anatolian Greek Christian counterpart convert and adopt Turkish language and culture!!??

Since you are a historian and a greek arguing with you for my believes is pointless, since you will never see my way or to try understand it.

[Ptolemy]

Originally Posted by ZZm

Since you are a historian and a greek arguing with you for my believes is pointless, since you will never see my way or to try understand it.

Most of the times while reading the usual gibberish of Fyromians here, i wonder whether its actually One totally retarded person behind many fake profiles or not. Its almost impossible to believe there are so many fyromians suffering from mental retardation out there. Once in a while try for a change to go outside and take deep breaths. In the end it may save you before your brain starts to rot from all that festering stagnation and your hereditary factor of brain dysfunction.

[kostas68]

Originally Posted by ZZm

Lets just say that I'm older than Alexander when he crushed the rebellion of the greek city states.

Let's say that you have nothing to do with Alexander,since your people was unexistent at Alexander's era,so don't mention him.By the way the Greek cities revolted also against the Athenians:Xenophon's <Hellenica> : <After the sea battle immediatly the rest of Greece except Samos revolted against the Athenians>.



You could also say that you're younger than the Athenian Konon,when he <hoped to defeat the Lacedemonians (Spartans),who were the masters of Greeks in land and at sea....he organized a fleet in Rhodos,defeated the Lacedemonians,deprived them from the rule and liberated the Greeks>,as Isocrates wrote in his letter to Philip:



Perhaps you prefer to compare your age with that of the Spartan Lysandros,who ordered after Sparta's win over Athens the demolition of the Athenian walls.Indeed,as Xenophon wrote in his <Hellenica>, <they demolished the walls with big eagerness,under the music of flutes,because they believed that day started the freedom of Greece>.



I hope you're able to read ancient Greek texts,as Alexander was.

Originally Posted by ZZm

And stop reading greek and serbian version of history.

Yeah,you should read only Risto Stefov's,Gandeto's and Tentov's version,they are the most accurate source .These ancient Greek historians were propagandists.

[Ptolemy]

One more thing. Next time i will witness any of you Fyromian Parrots to fill the place up by parroting your moronic propaganda sites, you will get instantly banned.

[Truth Bearer]

And the Greek cities also rebelled against the Spartans and also agaionst the Thebans when they became a power.

[kostas68]

Originally Posted by ZZm

With a 98% saying that are greeks and only a muslim greek minority recognized, which is not a minority only a different religion, I see Greece as a twilight zone!
Even the scandinavian countries have more bigger percentage of minorities than you, which is out of a any logical sense since Greece is in the balkan.
Are there any real greeks so they could really claim that their descent was plato?

Out of any logical sense is your attempt to present Greece as a country with many oppresed minorities.So,all the international organizations are so blind that they can't see it,only you are so clever eh?Have you ever heard about population exchanges?This explains partially the absence of minorities in Greece.I understand that it's difficult for you to believe that in Greece aren't significant minorities,since you're living in a country where the 40% of the total population is consisted of minorities.As for the <real Greeks> and the <descend from Plato>,i've wrote it many times,there are no pure ethnicities,only dirty minds.Every ethnicity on earth is mixed,perhaps only tribes like the Eskimos,the Laps,the Bushmen and the Papuas are <pure> and <unmixed>.We are also mixed,as everyone in the Balkans,but not in the degree that we haven't any connection to Plato,Aristotle and Alexander,as all your compatriots believe.And you should know something,the assimilating ability and power of an ethnicity depicts always the level of its cultural development.The fact that almost all the non-Greek tribes who settled in Greece accepted with eagerness their Hellenization,shows the superiority of the Greek spirit.This provokes your envy,since you know very well that no one would be eager today to become <Makedonski>

Originally Posted by ZZm

Of course you don't know how many there are romas since they are greeks descents of Alexander and they have "is" and "os".

Why,what names have the Roma in FYROM?Esma Redjepova isn't a typicall <Makedonski> name?Oh,it isn't!It has not the -ski surfix,sorry!It has to be an original Roma name!

Originally Posted by ZZm

I'm sure that they have "is" and "os".
Come on men. We both know that Vinozito will have better chances if they were saying that are bulgarians but i guess we remain a sting in the eye.

Can you tell us,what names have the Greeks in Monastir?Have they Greek surfixes,or they were forced to add a -ski?This here claims that he was called Konstandinidis,but at Tito's time it was changed by the authorities to Michailovski.He says also that around 100.000 Greeks live in this area:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLfPoaQIeKM " title="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLfPoaQIeKM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLfPoaQIeKM

Even the Greek names in some tombstones were rewritten with Cyrillic letters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8EfZeYtrGk&feature... " title="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8EfZeYtrGk&feature..." target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8EfZeYtrGk&feature...

Originally Posted by ZZm

Its a joke men. In a 11 million country so little other people.
Can you tell is there are mosque in Athens and how many non greeks are there?

If i'm not wrong,there isn't any proper mosque in Athens,although the last years it was planed to be built one.As for the forreign immigrants in Athens,
they are probably over 200.000.

Originally Posted by ZZm

Vardiorities Turks were scatered all around Macedonia but many of them stayed in "greek" Macedonia.
I'm sure that today they are proud descents of Aristotles.

I don't think many of them settled in areas that belong today in Greece,the vast majority was living in today FYROM's territory and after their Christianization soon followed their Bulgarization,(that's why they were under the jurisdiction of the archbishop of Ohrid) and some centuries later occured their <Macedonization>.Even if some of them settled later in Greek soil,their descendands are very known:the Vinozito's voters.

[kostas68]

Originally Posted by ZZm

Greece reminds me of the Borg Collectivity from Star Trek.

Prepare to be assimilated. Resistance is futile!

Maybe Jene Rodenberry was inspired by Greece.

It's more possible that he was inspired by Tito's succesfull <Macedonization> recipe.Talking about forcible assimilations and ethnogenesis,this here seems more effective:

[gmellos]

Originally Posted by ZZm

Since you are a historian and a greek arguing with you for my believes is pointless, since you will never see my way or to try understand it.

so you don't want to have a conversation with me?

[Victor]

23,000 murdered by the state during peacetime in Vardar YUgoslavia?
180,000 left utopia,perfection,paradise?
Chento jailed simply for being an admitted and self-declared BUlgarian?
GRoups in VArdar organizing and sending letters of complaint to the Allies,only to get arrested or executed?

HOW CAN THIS BE??????????????