Boskovski's speech

[Victor]

Originally Posted by ZZm

What do you expect Dimce?
They would first side with the devil than to recognizes us.
Probably some of them will compare Boskovski with Hitler.

THats a great comparison!Tell us,did you VArdarians throw more flowers at the Nazis or BOskovski?

[Petros Houhoulis]

Originally Posted by ZZm

When did he claimed?

No, he didn't claim. He just made a speech and you brought an irredentist map for effect, and by not throwing the falg/map way, we assume that he endorses irredentism. Right or wrong?

[Petros Houhoulis]

Originally Posted by ZZm

Does he have a power to do anything?
Do you know that thanks to you greeks and your fear that we will attack you and retake of what was ours I feel powerful?
Wow I can see the headings in the foreign newspapers:" it seems that history repeats it selfs, 8000 ********** soldiers defeated 240 000 greek soldiers, Greece is again under ********** rule"!

What does this have to do with power? You have no right to make irredentist claims no matter if you have the power to accomplish them or not. Bush invaded and destroyed Iraq because Saddam Hussein declared his intention to attack the U.S.A. and the assumption that he had weapons of mass destruction.

Macedonia was never yours. Stop making wet dreams about it.

[Petros Houhoulis]

Originally Posted by ZZm

I was just making fun of greek logic and politics!

But of course you failed to understand.

This is not "fun". This is your mental state. Wars of conquest and wars of subjugation of the Albanians within your country are your staple of thought for years.

[Petros Houhoulis]

Originally Posted by ZZm

I know TB mate.
I have a good sense a humor, especially when I'm making fun of illogical stuff.


I just had a nap so I'm awake now.
How are the sessions with the shrink?

A war is not illogical stuff, and the notion that we are afraid of your army is a matter purely within your hallucinations. We are afraid of going into war - no matter if we win it or not - and our fear is legitimate, because wars cost money, and we pay for high price for war prevention by buying arms...

[Petros Houhoulis]

Originally Posted by ZZm

Don't you see?
********** soldiers are setting foot in every country that Alexandar the Great has conquered.
Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon
So be careful.

No seriously. Enough with the jokes.

What are the chances those maps, that some people have, to become a reality?

For the moment, you have had Greek soldiers in NATO missions in your country, including "Essential harvest". You have yet to send troops in Greece, at least since the Greek civil war...

[Petros Houhoulis]

Originally Posted by ZZm

Who am I to judge of how they feel?

I think that you are jealous cause they did not come in your country!

We have enough Pakistani refugees already. We don't need more of them.

[Petros Houhoulis]

Originally Posted by ZZm

Well the gypsies in your country are greeks i.e. descents of plato, socrates and the others so who is the gypsy now?

And one more thing.
So decide now from which part if Asia we come from: Siberia or central Asia?

The gypsies in Greece do not claim either to be Macedonians or the Greek throne.

Who the hell cares where you came from. One thing is certain, you are not indigenous in the South Balkans.

[Petros Houhoulis]

Originally Posted by ZZm

Stop watching greek media!

How about wikipedia, and the sources cited in there?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ljube_Bo%C5%A1koski

"...The international media claimed the men were killed "to impress the US" in what ********** police spokeswoman, Mirjana Konteska, claims was "...an act of a sick mind" and that they had "lost their lives in a staged murder."[2] Senior police officials claimed that the seven men were killed after a police patrol was ambushed by the Pakistani group, but Konteska said a forensics and ballistics investigation confirmed the operation was staged.

Ljube Boškoski, whom many believe ordered the killings, denies the allegations made by the media and the victims' families. Boškoski made a statement suggesting that the men were associated with a terrorist group and had planned an attack on the British, American and German embassies in the ********** capital of Skopje.[3]..."

[2] 'Terrorists' killed to impress the US The Daily Telegraph, April 30, 2004
[3] ********* victims 'were Pakistani', The Daily Telegraph, Chris Jennings, March 4, 2002

[Petros Houhoulis]

Originally Posted by Grace

I remember reading about those Pakistanis. IIRC it was FYROM wanting to get in the news as a "reliable partner against terror."


On the other point: Albanians have no rational reason to do so, it will hurt the Albanian cause, while serving Serbia ('Albanians are troublemakers /Kosovo precedent' and Greece that wants FYROM to go. What would Albanians gain? Nothing they cannot get 10 years from now, when Albania is stronger. Greece on the other hand is handing out checks to Southern Albanians to say that they're Greeks, has not recognized Kosova, it is stirring trouble in Himara and wants Albania's Church leader to be a Greek, fully knowing the role that Greek church plays in Greek politics.

Greeks have invested in Albania but it isn't because of charity and they have no reason to deny Albania's NATO membership (you can't just say no when all others agree, it isn't as simple.) When Albania does something to protect it's nationality you return 100,000 immigrants as a warning.
FYI: Most Albanians view Greece as a much bigger threat and for a good reason.

There are Greeks in Southern Albania, even before Greece handed out checksto them. Their contribution to the Greek soldiers against the Italian fascists during the WWII is not forgotten. You forgot to mention that while Greece hands out money to them, the Albanian state does something even worse to them: Repression, violence during past elections to preven Greeks from getting elected, e.t.c.

Greece has no obligation to recognize Kossovo. (I thought that the Serbs were calling it Kosova!)

Greece is not stirring trouble in Himara. There have not been any terrorist acts in Himara, neither any sort of armed rebellion.

Greece did not impose a Greek archbishop in Himara, the Patriarchate of Constantinople did so, and for good reason: The Christian church was persecuted during Hoxhas' regime and there were no Albanian bishops or priests that could be promoted to the position.

Greece does not invest. Greeks do. Of course, investment is no charity anywhere.

Greece could veto Albania just as Turkey vetoes Cyprus in NATO, but there was no reason for Greece to do so.

Greece, just as any other country in the world, has the right to return illegal immigrants to their country of origin at any time.