Nimetz on FYROM

[Truth Bearer]

I agree it should be the Central Balkan Republic or Federation.
Or what about the United Balkan States.
Or the Republic of Slavoalbanobulgaroserboturkogrecostan???

[New Politics]

The United Nations mediator on the Macedonia name dispute yesterday discussed a new “package of ideas” with Foreign Minister Dora Bakoyannis in the first essential move toward a settlement since Athens vetoed Skopje’s bid to join NATO in early April.

....According to sources, Nimetz has moved away from “double-barreled” names with hyphens. The Constitutional Republic of Macedonia is believed to be a new alternative, while New Macedonia, Upper Macedonia and Northern Macedonia are reportedly still on the table.

None of this would make sense politically, to allow the use of Macedonia without a composite of some sort.

A composit is what the Greek FM and PM have stated on numerous times. There is no way they can back down from that.

And please those of you Slavs, don't say anything like, "Greece has no choice" please speak to the political strategies and the dynamics of the press.

[Makedonomaxos2008]

This means one of two things...

Either the people pulling Nimetz's strings are once again underestimating the determination of Greece (which i do not find very likely)

or

They do not want the Republic of Skopje to enter EU and NATO...

Don't ask me why, but this is the only conclusion one can come to if these names are true...

[Petros Houhoulis]

Originally Posted by Makedonomaxos2008

This means one of two things...

Either the people pulling Nimetz's strings are once again underestimating the determination of Greece (which i do not find very likely)

or

They do not want the Republic of Skopje to enter EU and NATO...

Don't ask me why, but this is the only conclusion one can come to if these names are true...

Nobody is pulling strings. We just don't agree...

[Makedonomaxos2008]

Originally Posted by Petros Houhoulis

Nobody is pulling strings. We just don't agree...

We don't agree with the Skopianese...

Nimetz, on the other hand, is serving someones interests.

[Petros Houhoulis]

Originally Posted by Makedonomaxos2008

We don't agree with the Skopianese...

Nimetz, on the other hand, is serving someones interests.

I think that Nimetz got into a big headache, and cannot wait to get out of it...

[Makedonomaxos2008]

Originally Posted by Petros Houhoulis

I think that Nimetz got into a big headache, and cannot wait to get out of it...

Could be, he has been trying 'na vgalei akri' for the past 17 years, but hey.. we didn't ask him to come

The fact of the matter is that all his proposals have taken into consideration the Skopianese 'sensitive' points, but completely ignores the Greek ones

[Amyntas]

I heard that both sides are favouring "Republic of Northern Macedonia" at least thats what skopians in Germany are saying all over the net

[Truth Bearer]

Nimetz Offers Ideas for Macedonia 'Name'

26 June 2008 Skopje _ The UN mediator in the ‘name’ row between Greece and Macedonia has presented several ideas for a compromise solution during his trip to Athens.

The United States diplomat Matthew Nimetz did not say whether his ideas contain a fresh Macedonia name proposal nor he give any details after he presented them to Greek Foreign Minister Dora Bakoyannis.

The main element of the talks is to find “a name and to determine the range of its use,” Nimetz told media after the meeting saying that there were no discussions about Macedonian identity as it is not part of the United Nations-sponsored negotiations.

Nimetz is to present his new ideas to Skopje as well during his visit on Friday when the US Deputy Assistant Secretary Rosemary DiCarlo is also expected to visit Macedonia. Local media reported that she will try to speed up the negotiations as part of a last ditch effort by the outgoing US administration to end the 17 year-long row.

Greece insists that Macedonia should change its name arguing that it implies Skopje’s territorial claims on Greece’s own northern province of the same name.

Skopje says it is ready to make a “reasonable compromise” in order to end the dispute as long as the Macedonian identity is not harmed. Greece on the other hand does not recognise a Macedonian identity different to that of Greek Macedonian.

Meanwhile, Greek newspaper Eleftheros Typos on Thursday speculated that the names Northern, Upper or Vardar Macedonia are the most probable proposals that Nimetz is set to put on table.

If a solution to the dispute is reached by July 9 Macedonia could still catch up with Albania and Croatia in its NATO accession. Zagreb and Tirana received invitations to join the military alliance in April but Macedonia’s invitation was blocked by Greece due to the unresolved row.

Nimetz said that he does not see any deadlines including July 9 for solving the row.

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/main...AS1=1&ST_max=1

[Truth Bearer]

“Name” Talks Move to Macedonia

27 June 2008 Skopje _ The UN mediator in the ‘name’ row between Greece and Macedonia is today meeting Macedonia's leaders in Skopje to discuss further ideas for a compromise solution.


Matthew Nimetz is meeting Macedonia’s President Branko Crvenkovski and Premier Nikola Gruevski.
His visit follows talks held yesterday in Athens with Greek Foreign Minister Dora Bakoyiannis, in which he said he presented several “ideas” for a compromise solution.



He did not say whether these ideas contained fresh proposals for the name. Read more: http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/main/news/11362/

However media in both countries speculate that that the names Northern, Upper or Vardar Macedonia are the most probable proposals that Nimetz is set to put on the table.

US Deputy Assistant Secretary Rosemary DiCarlo is also visiting Macedonia today, the US embassy in Skopje confirmed. Local media report that she will try to speed up negotiations as part of a last ditch effort by the outgoing US administration to end the 17 year-long row over Macedonia's name.

Greece insists that Macedonia should change its name arguing that its current name implies Skopje’s territorial claims on Greece’s own northern province of the same name. In April Athens blocked Skopje’s NATO invitation and is threatening to do the same with its EU bid.

Skopje says it is ready to make a “reasonable compromise” in order to end the dispute as long as the Macedonian identity is not harmed. Greece on the other hand does not recognise a Macedonian identity different to that of Greek Macedonian.

http://balkaninsight.com/en/main/news/11381/