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Old 06-15-2008, 12:40 PM
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Talking Italian RAI Channel: "Macedonians" are SlavoBulgars!

On Italian TV "RaiNews24" in the live coverage of the elections in RoM, their reporter in Skopje Enio Remondino called the "ethnic Macedonians" "Slavo-Bulgars".

To the complaints that were received, RAI Media Group replied that no insults were used, only facts.

The source is the Skopje TV channel "A1":

http://www.a1.com.mk/vesti/default.aspx?VestID=93778


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Old 06-15-2008, 01:23 PM
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Finaly , the Italians did something usefull & serius ....usualy they don't do nothing else but tasting wines & cheeses "gratis" in "apperitivos" !!!



Like the Italian Ferrarese say in their dialect : "aglera ora !!!" ("common" Italian : Era Ora !!!) ...."It was about time !!!!"
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Old 06-15-2008, 01:38 PM
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Hehehe!Our Scopian friends always say that whenever a foreigner hears the word Macedonia,the first think that comes in his mind is their country,but things are not so,for those who know history at least.Italians seem to know history (except of good wines and cheeses,eh Andrea?)Their ancestors conquered Macedonia and they knew very well what were the ancient Macedonians.
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Since we've been talking about Italy , guys , I would like to make a comment:

Modern Italy is the perfect modern example to understand ancient Greece. They are both polydialectic regions !!!

To understand why in ancient Greece there were more than 30 dialects of Greek , just see the more than 50 dialects of Italy.

In the region where I study ..in an area of 200 Km X 200 Km you have about a dozen of different dialects : Bolognese ,Ferrarese , Romagnolo borgese , Veneto Rovigoto and Veneto inland , Veneto of Venice (Veneziano) , Parmese , Mantovano ...they are ALL nortern Italian dialects and once I told an old man in Ferrara that I found "Ferrarese" similar to "Mantovano" ..he was so ungry that answered me : "you just said that Greek is similar to Russian !!"

xaxaxa

And I only mentioned the Northern Italian dialects ...there also a dozen of Middle Italian dialects and 2 dozen of South Italian dialects.

I'm 8 years in Italy , speak fluently their "common" Italian (Dante's evolved "Toscano"), back when they speak "in dialetto" I can understand only 1 word out of 7 !!!!!

So a big thanks to the Italian polydialectic system that helped me understand the ancient greek polydialectic system and the necessity of a common greek language !!!!!
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On Italian TV "RaiNews24" in the live coverage of the elections in RoM, their reporter in Skopje Enio Remondino called the "ethnic Macedonians" "Slavo-Bulgars".

To the complaints that were received, RAI Media Group replied that no insults were used, only facts.

The source is the Skopje TV channel "A1":

http://www.a1.com.mk/vesti/default.aspx?VestID=93778


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Dude! the link is in slavobulgarian. How do we understand it? How did you understand it?
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HEHheHEhehe!

Sarkozy is doing it's magic and see what follows then! That's the spirit!

http://greece-salonika.blogspot.com/2008/06/o_15.html


Rai προς Σκόπια:"Δεν είστε Μακεδόνες..είστε Σλαβοβούλγαροι".

Ο μεγαλύτερος ιδ.τηλεοπτικός σταθμός των Σκοπίων A1,ενοχλήθηκε με τη χρησιμοποίηση του όρου "Σλαβοβούλγαροι",απ΄τον ανταποκριτή της Ιταλικής RAI Ε.Ρεμοντίνο, για το χαρακτηρισμό των κατοίκων της γειτονικής χώρας αντί του"Mακεδόνες" ("ethnic Macedonians") κατά τη διάρκεια του ρεπορτάζ για τις εκλογές της ΠΓΔΜ.

Το κανάλι των Σκοπίων απαίτησε έγγραφη απάντηση απ΄το ιταλικό δίκτυο..
Η απάντηση που ήρθε από το RAI Media Group εγγράφως, ήταν λιτή αλλά αποστομωτική:

"Στο ρεπορτάζ δε μεταδόθηκαν προσβολές,μεταδόθηκε μόνο η πραγματικότητα "..


Το ρεπορτάζ του Α1,μεταξύ άλλων,αναφέρει:

"On Italian TV "RaiNews24" in the live coverage of the elections in RoM, their reporter in Skopje Enio Remondino called the "ethnic Macedonians" "Slavo-Bulgars". To the complaints that were received, RAI Media Group replied that no insults were used, only facts."


Δηλαδή:"Στο ιταλικό τηλεοπτικό κανάλι "RaiNews24" κατά τη διάρκεια της ζωντανής κάλυψης των εκλογών στην "ΔΤΜ"("Δημοκρατία της Μακεδονίας"), ο δημοσιογράφος τους στα Σκόπια Enio Remondino,αποκάλεσε τους "εθνικούς μακεδόνες","σλαβοβούλγαρους"..

Στη διαμαρτυρία που δέχτηκε το RAI Media Group απάντησε πως δε χρησιμοποιήθηκαν(μεταδόθηκαν) προσβολές..Μεταδόθηκε μόνο η πραγματικότητα."

*Το σχετικό ρεπορτάζ εδώ:http://www.a1.com.mk/
*Eνώ η ενδιαφέρουσα συζήτηση που έχει ανοίξει γι'αυτό το θέμα στον διαδυκτιακό τόπο topix.com εδώ:http://www.topix.com/forum/world/mac...NU1IPPS69B1JTL
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Thank you very much for the sources...

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AHahHAHhahhHA!

I don't understand why they were insulted!

They are a living breathing insult all by themselves!
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